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Originally posted by Skins2881:
I've been waiting for more details to come out on this story for it to hopefully make sense. Still not happening.

I just want to find out when the USSS agents are going to jail and exactly what the end game was here.


That plus I'm waiting for the IRS to demand they pay a gift tax on all the shit they received. Where's the IRS when you need them?


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Does the Secret Service hire people that are that easy to dupe?


You forget all cops are recruited from the general population…there’s no cop farm where they grow intelligent smart cops….trust me I worked with a few.

There are many reasons people slip thru the cracks, from PC hires to box checkers to idiots who just want a govt job where it’s really really difficult to fire them….shitbirds are everywhere. Look around at your workplace, unless you are a sole proprietor, there’s an idiot among you. Don’t think that for one minute the cops-in any flavor, size or shape are immune to stupidity-cause they ain’t.

And it isn’t just limited to the USSS,FBI,CIA,Marshals,Air Marshals,USPS Inspector,Sheriffs, City cops, DA investigators, (insert LEO here)

And don’t think they are all squeaky clean, I saw hires that had drug charges that were wavered etc…I heard of one guy who left a hire interview in handcuffs, and saw another applicant…and I worked for a city that had 40k people…it occurs everywhere.



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Law enforcement sources told CBS News that investigators are looking into the possibility that the two suspects have ties to Iranian intelligence including to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite component of the Iranian military that conducts special operations, or the Quds force.

Prosecutors said Thursday that Ali told witnesses he had connections to the Pakistani Intelligence Service, which the government said it has not yet verified. Prosecutors also said the government recovered his passport containing three "older" Pakistani visas and two Iranian visas from 2019 and January 2020. There was an indication on Ali's Iranian visa that he had entered that country at some point, prosecutors said, although they did not specify when.

The government also indicated they had a hard time pinning down an exact address for Taherzadeh, but signs point to the fact that he is currently a U.S. citizen.

The internal probe remains in its "very early stages," U.S. Secret Service officials stress, but at this point, Secret Service personnel — two agents and two uniformed division officers — appear to have been "genuinely duped" by suspects, according to law enforcement officials who say investigators have not yet found evidence of nefarious actions.

While investigators continue to search for answers on why agents were seemingly swindled, all four officials are currently being treated as witnesses to the investigation.

But the Secret Service personnel involved have been effectively "put on ice," according to a Secret Service official. Agents and officers no longer have access to communications or tracking systems — including information about Secret Service personnel movements and locations of all Secret Service protectees, including President Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and first lady Jill Biden.
 
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A U.S. judge on Tuesday declined to jail two men accused of impersonating federal agents and supplying Secret Service personnel with gifts, dealing a blow to prosecutors who had argued that the defendants pose a danger and should be detained.

Arian Taherzadeh, 40, and Haider Ali, 35, were arrested last week and are accused of providing gifts worth thousands of dollars such as rent-free apartments and iPhones to Secret Service agents, including one who protected first lady Jill Biden. The Secret Service is the agency responsible for protecting the president and other top U.S. officials.

"There's been no showing that national security information has been compromised," U.S. Magistrate Judge Michael Harvey said.

Harvey ordered both men to remain in home confinement, subject to GPS monitoring, with their parents and that they surrender their passports and stay away from airports and embassies. Harvey agreed to stay his order until Wednesday morning while the government mulls whether to appeal.

The judge said prosecutors did not prove the defendants tried to infiltrate the Secret Service with nefarious purposes, and noted they were so "spectacularly outed" that there is no risk anymore that they can continue to pose as agents.

Harvey said neither defendant is charged with a violent crime and neither one faces a stiff prison term if convicted - all elements that work against the prosecution's claims they pose a danger to the community. Harvey added there have been "significantly worse and more dangerous impersonation cases" before the court in the past.

At the same time, Harvey said he does believe prosecutors have enough evidence to secure convictions in the case.

The challenges prosecutors faced in convincing Harvey to detain the defendants appeared to stem, at least in part, from the rushed nature of the investigation.

Earlier on Tuesday, federal prosecutor Joshua Rothstein told the judge the FBI was forced to move before it was ready against the two after a Secret Service investigator for unclear reasons tipped them off that they were under scrutiny.

In a hearing, Rothstein said the tip-off occurred on April 4 after the Secret Service launched an internal inquiry and placed four agents on administrative leave for accepting gifts from Taherzadeh and Ali.

"An investigator, as part of that internal investigation, reached out to Mr. Taherzadeh via email ... saying that he needed to get information, and Mr. Taherzadeh responded," Rothstein told the judge.

Rothstein did not explain why the Secret Service investigator informed Taherzadeh about the inquiry.

There was no indication the tip-off was intended to protect the defendants, but it prompted the Justice Department to rush the next day for the court's approval for a warrant that preceded the arrests last Wednesday.

“Because this matter is pending adjudication by a federal court, it is not appropriate for the Secret Service to make any comments on prosecutorial statements," a Secret Service spokesperson said in an email to Reuters.
 
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So they took the phony agents' passports and told them to stay home? Yeah, that'll show them. Who wants to bet the next story we see will be that they disappeared into thin air?

Meanwhile, Jan. 6 protesters are locked up for over a year for what amounts to trespassing.

These acronym agencies are a monumentally embarrassing shit-show.



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Originally posted by Flash-LB:
Does the Secret Service hire people that are that easy to dupe?

[snip]Look around at your workplace, unless you are a sole proprietor, there’s an idiot among you.[snip]


Truth.



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MikeinNC pretty much nailed it.

For example, think of how difficult it is for a large city (NYC or LA) to start with a new batch of 70 recruits (new class starts each month) and graduate that particular batch of recruits 6 months later (perhaps 40 remain). You're going to get a wide variety of Apples in that cart and not everyone should be on the job or even have passed the background check.

Private industry sucks even worse..
 
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