...A Wall Street Journal reporter topped that, obtaining a reading of 112 degrees by simultaneously charging her phone and using it in processor-heavy ways. The gold medal, however, goes to a Chinese tech platform that scored a whopping 122 degrees by downloading the "Genshin Impact" game. Simply playing the game in hi-res mode put it back in that danger zone.
Industry observers are offering competing theories about the cause of the problem. Initially, fingers were pointed at TSMC's groundbreaking 3-nm processor. However, on Wednesday, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo wrote that he thinks materials and design are the principal suspects:
"The primary cause is more likely the compromises made in the thermal system design to achieve a lighter weight, such as the reduced heat dissipation area and the use of a titanium frame, which negatively impacts thermal efficiency."
As Apple strives for lighter and lighter phones, there's a price to be paid where heat dissipation is concerned. With the iPhone 15 Max's design centered on a new titanium frame rather than stainless steel, designers may have gone too far. “It’s the Icarus theory,” iFixit CEO Kyle Wiens tells the Wall Street Journal. “Apple flew too close to the sun, and the wings started melting off.”...
September 28, 2023, 08:44 AM
HRK
Going to make great pocket and hand warmers for youse guys up north!
September 28, 2023, 08:48 AM
Edmond
quote:
Originally posted by PASig: This is why I never buy a version 1.0 of anything; car, phone etc
That's why we are going to wait until next year to upgrade our phones to a 13 or 14.
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September 28, 2023, 09:08 AM
ensigmatic
There's absolutely no excuse for this whatsoever. Apple's engineers, in attempting breakthrough case design materials, should have had the good sense to have tested the designs beyond the worst-case expected performance demands. That's just a normal and expected part of any design and development process.
Of course: Maybe they did and some PHBs overrode their counsel. BTDT. (It always ended badly.)
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September 28, 2023, 09:18 AM
ThankGod4Sig
What even funnier about Crap-ple is the “new design” it breaks much easier because the metal rear plate is now not apart of the rear plate.
Another great design by Apple. What a joke. Oh forgot now you get a 5x lens camera for that phone, a huge leap forward from that 3x.
Oh and you can have this new Apple Watch that’s the same as the previous watch , that was the same as the one before that. That was the same design as the one before that.
Apple died with Steve Jobs.
"da evil Count Glockula."-Para
September 28, 2023, 09:22 AM
DanH
iPhones have always run incredibly hot during long gaming sessions. Go check out the Max Tech channel on Youtube where they use thermal cameras during high stress gaming tests.
This has been an Apple problem for several generations. It's not anything new. Just click bait.
September 28, 2023, 10:31 AM
trapper189
quote:
Originally posted by PASig: This is why I never buy a version 1.0 of anything; car, phone etc.
What version do you wait for; 16, 17?
September 28, 2023, 10:34 AM
Veeper
There’s a lot to be said about poor quality control these days, but most of the iPhone 15P heat-related hyperbolic news/clickbait dogpile seems to be related to the Instagram app causing issues.
Glad to see we have a thread-based opportunity for a disgruntled dogpile here, at least outside of the other Apple threads.
It’s like a honeypot.
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So, if you're not gaming no big deal? Wife just replaced her 7 with a 15. I've been thinking of trading my 12 Pro Max on a new 15 Pro Max. Only going to be a couple hundred bucks. I'm interested in the satellite SOS capability. Not too worried about impact resistance as I always have my phones in an Otterbox Defender and I use the good screen protector.
September 28, 2023, 10:44 AM
6guns
quote:
youse guys
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September 28, 2023, 11:08 AM
PowerSurge
This is a non issue guys.
——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1
September 28, 2023, 11:14 AM
V-Tail
Bill Shakespeare said it first: Much Ado About Nothing.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים
September 28, 2023, 11:39 AM
DanH
quote:
Originally posted by BOATTRASH1: So, if you're not gaming no big deal? Wife just replaced her 7 with a 15. I've been thinking of trading my 12 Pro Max on a new 15 Pro Max. Only going to be a couple hundred bucks. I'm interested in the satellite SOS capability. Not too worried about impact resistance as I always have my phones in an Otterbox Defender and I use the good screen protector.
Basically any long term processor intensive tasks will generate high heat levels, but graphics intensive games are the most common.
Something else in that review I linked also goes into the USB-C port and the different USB hubs and accessories you can now hook up to your iPhone and run from your phone that the old Lightning port wouldn't power properly or needed an extra dongle to sort of make work. I've got a USB-C headphone DAC that will transmit aptX Adaptive signals to bluetooth headphones for better sound quality Apple's integrated bluetooth chip can't reach.
September 28, 2023, 11:42 AM
PASig
quote:
Originally posted by PowerSurge: This is a non issue guys.
I wouldn’t be so sure about that. Reading reports that people having the phone get uncomfortably hot during Instagram and Facebook use too. Not just gaming. They clearly went bleeding edge possibly too far bleeding edge with this.
September 28, 2023, 11:56 AM
snwghst
Just the annual media reports making something out of nothing
“Let’s see if it can survive a fall from 12,000ft and still work…. It broke!!! I told you it was a piece of crap”
Let’s bend it in half and see if it springs back”
I laugh at these types of articles. Yes I have a 15 pro max. No heat issues here. My 14 ran hotter
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September 28, 2023, 12:03 PM
WaterburyBob
I just replaced my iPhone 6 with a 13 a little while back, so I guess I'm good for a while.
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September 28, 2023, 12:15 PM
radioman
quote:
Originally posted by PowerSurge: This is a non issue guys.
maybe, maybe not. 122 degrees F is above what is considered "safe" for extended-time skin contact.
But, what we have not seen is data from a real thermal engineer who works in a real thermal test lab.
WSJ talking to some idiot who measured 122 deg certainly gets clicks, but where are the test results from a real (certified) test lab ?
There are plenty of these certified labs, around. They run about $300 per hour. Let's see some real results and not just results from someone who bought a thermometer off of Ebay.
Shit, if someone brought me test results like this, the first thing I'd ask is for the NIST traceable calibration cert for that thermometer.
but that said, maybe it's a problem, maybe not. we just don't have any real data that we can trust yet.
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September 28, 2023, 12:48 PM
DanH
Yet we do have thermal images of several genereations of iPhone being this hot with repeatable data.
In regards to Facebook and Instagram, a software bug in the apps and how they work on iOS 17 is likely the culprit and will get patched either by Apple or by the app developer like it always has been.
It's not new and just like your CUT says, ignored facts still exist.
September 28, 2023, 03:33 PM
911Boss
Evidently, according to video “reviews” it also won’t stand up to:
Being blowtorched Carved on with a utility knife Being folded in half Hurling it at a brick wall
Not sure how I have made it 20+ years with cell phones and avoided all of those hazardous situations that evidently should be part of the QC testing protocols.
My 15 Pro Max should arrive in a couple weeks, sounds like I may be able to save on our winter heating bills.
What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???
