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Originally posted by fpuhan:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Unfortunately, there is a huge downside to the rest of the country for this huge exodus of people from blue states.

Yes, they bring their "blueness" with them.

Yep, and guess which state borders NY and Jersey. PA is being inundated by the blue wave idiots, who apparently can’t lay the blame where it resides - themselves!

I'm willing to take my chances. I'm sick of subsidizing Cuomo and Newsome's re-election campaigns.

The problem with the exodus is that many of these folks take their blue politics with them. Just look at the COW: Colorado, Oregon and Washington states with the arrival of the californicators.

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Originally posted by cas:
Old news in NY, asshole's just admitting it now so he can use it as his excuse to buy more votes with legalized pot. THAT'S where the money will come from! Yeah sure. Or start up NY, Or Greek yogurt. Which is it this week?

Cuomo hasn't even gotten the marijuana program set up and all of the alleged income from this is already spent. Everyone knows the "best" way or program to spend this "windfall". It would barely put a dent in the budget shortfall, let alone pay for more new programs.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Unfortunately, there is a huge downside to the rest of the country for this huge exodus of people from blue states.

You've got that right! Here in Texas we don't get many from New York, but the influx from California is very damaging.

flashguy

Maybe the Red states need to pass legislation requiring citizens from other states to get a visa before they can move into the state. Include a 5 year residency before they can vote. 100% tax on purchasing real estate prior to the residency requirement, etc.

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Originally posted by Dakor:

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Originally posted by fpuhan:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Unfortunately, there is a huge downside to the rest of the country for this huge exodus of people from blue states.

Yes, they bring their "blueness" with them.

Yep, and guess which state borders NY and Jersey. PA is being inundated by the blue wave idiots, who apparently can’t lay the blame where it resides - themselves!

They've ruined Austin, TX, and have been descending on Dallas the past few years.

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Originally posted by SR025:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Unfortunately, there is a huge downside to the rest of the country for this huge exodus of people from blue states.

Exactly, most will bring their politics with them and rinse and repeat in the free states.

They're like locusts.



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^^^

industrial strength insecticide

It the same as an aggressive mestatizing cancer. Spreads, takes over, and then kills the host.

States need to be congnizant of asking companies from badly run states to set up shop in theirs.

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Originally posted by fpuhan:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Unfortunately, there is a huge downside to the rest of the country for this huge exodus of people from blue states.

Yes, they bring their "blueness" with them.

I've become pretty blunt with those I've met moving here. Don't like our till now conservative bent? Well f you go back where you escaped.

Shovelhead:
First, I misread the article. Its a 47 cent increase, not 47 per cent.
It was in the Mining Journal on 2-1.
Names:
Bob Emerson - Democrat.
Ken Sikkema - Republican.
John Cherry - Democrat.
Paul Hillegonds - Republican
They want to phase the increases, 7 cents in 2020 and 5 cents a year afterward.
None of these people are current office holders.
Whitmer is mum on her plans for the roads, so far anyway.
When and if this program is implemented, gas taxes will be 73 cents a gallon, the highest in the US.
If you google the topic, there are many articles statewide on it.

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Originally posted by Cousin Vinnie:
Migration of the "Blues" is the problem as others have mentioned. So again, the democratic RUIN their state driving the socialist, democrats and other parasites to our free states and then we becomes then! Just like what happened here in Virginia.....Maryland and DC drove out the dems with high taxes and undesirable living conditions, now they have descending and started destroyong our Virginia way of life.
We need a border wall at the northland of Virginia to keep those locust the hell out!

Amen!

A decade ago, Maryland imposed a millionaire tax on the highest earners.

https://www.cnbc.com/id/48120446

"The tax, which expired in 2010, in imposed a rate of 6.25 percent on incomes of more than $1 million a year." That rate doesn't sound bad, but the counties in Maryland levy a county surcharge to the state income tax. In Montgomery County MD, just north of DC, the county rate is an additional 3.2%, so that gets you to 9.45%

"The Change Maryland study found that the tax cost Maryland $1.7 billion in lost tax revenues." The increase in tax rates actually decreased tax revenue. Who knew? (Answer: Art Laffer, et al). The loss of revenue was so severe that Maryland repealed the millionaire tax. And boy does Maryland hate to repeal a tax.

This should be a warning to freshman congresswomen who think that a 70% federal income tax rate will provide revenue to fund their socialist dreams. But it won't. Because Democrats can't do math....

Gov. Cuomo's Right: The Rich Are Leaving High-Tax New York

New York Taxes: We don't often praise New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, but we have to say, we appreciate his frankness.

On Monday, he told his state's citizens that income tax revenues were coming in $2.3 billion below the expectations of just a month ago. "That's as serious as a heart attack," he said. He's right. The question is why?

New York plans to spend about $176 billion in the coming fiscal year, starting April 1. About $100 billion of that, according to Carl Campanile of the New York Post, will come from federal funds.

That means the actual deficit in state funding after just one month is 3%. Cuomo says it's due to the new federal tax code, which limits state income tax deductions to $10,000, and recent volatility in the stock market.

But because of the unexpected shortfall, Cuomo, as governor of one of the deepest-blue states in America, will soon be pushed hard to raise taxes on the rich.

No War On The Rich

"I don't believe raising taxes on the rich," Cuomo said Monday. "That would be the worst thing to do. You would just expand the shortfall. God forbid if the rich leave."

He's absolutely right, though he'll no doubt get royally roasted by the far-left of the New York Democratic Party. The state already has a steeply progressive tax code. The top 1% of earners pay 46% of all the income taxes. That's punitive.

In support of his comments, Cuomo cited "anecdotal" evidence that showed high-income earners are leaving the high-tax Empire State for other low-tax states.

But the evidence isn't merely anecdotal. It's a fact.

Just last month, United Van Lines released its 42nd annual "National Movers Study," which tracks comings and goings from all the states.
Leaving New York

Last year, the study said, 61.5% of New York movers left the state; just 38.5% moved in. Among those who left, 41% earned $150,000 or more. Just 8.4% earned less than $50,000.

From 2010 to mid-2017, New York had a net outmigration of over 1 million people, more than any other state. No, they're not all rich. But many are.

And recent changes in the deductibility of federal taxes certainly hasn't helped high-tax states like New York. The wealthy have choices that others don't.

Last year, a study by Wallet Hub looked at states ranked by their total tax burden. New York came out on top. Our own report compared the Wallet Hub data with Census data from 2007 to 2016. New York lost 1.3 million citizens, more even than California, which lost just under a million, and Illinois.

High Taxes As Punishment

No, not all the people who left New York were rich. But many were. And recent changes in the deductibility of federal taxes certainly hasn't helped high-tax states like New York. The wealthy have choices that others don't. One of those choices is to move if taxes become not merely burdensome, but punitive.

By the way, we also compared the Wallet Hub data with the states that were gaining population, and lo and behold: Five low-tax states — Texas, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina and Washington — gained the most population.

In short, high taxes drive people away; low taxes attract them. It's simple economics, yet so many Blue States don't get it.

Cuomo, to his credit, gets it. Many high-income taxpayers are leaving New York for low-tax states, tired of paying the state's bills and then being demonized leftist activists for being "rich" and told they must give more.

That's the road to fiscal insolvency. When those who pay the bills leave, the bills no longer get paid.

It's an important lesson for other big, blue states — including Left-Coast California — if they're smart enough to learn it.

https://www.investors.com/poli...get-rich-high-taxes/

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Originally posted by chellim1:

That's the road to fiscal insolvency. When those who pay the bills leave, the bills no longer get paid.

It's an important lesson for other big, blue states — including Left-Coast California — if they're smart enough to learn it.

IMO, it is abundantly clear that they are not.

flashguy

More fees on the horizon for New Jersey residents...

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...be-hit-with-rain-tax