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https://www.burglarbomb.com/pr.../82534141/category=0 Find some poison ivy, oak, sumac and coat a 20 with it. Leave it in the car Or just lock your doors. Thieves' need to make a livin too | |||
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^^^^^ Would this be considered a booby-trap? What if police or fire depart had to access the home and it goes off? "No matter where you go - there you are" | |||
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Well, to expound. WE can do what is called a "knock and talk" and that is very simple. WE knock on the door, and then we talk... We will try to ask the homeowner, or renter, or whoever for consent to search the house... but what do you think happens? Read any post on such a topic on this forum. No one gives consent. There was a 2 year period where people coulnd't wait to post the link to the video titles "never talk to the police" and guess what? It spread. Even the criminals now know never to agree to a consent search. How many of the posters in this thread would, if i showed up in uniform and requested to enter their house with their permission and search for the stolen cell phone that pinged to their address, allow me inside? Really... I'd be interested in a poll... You want to fight this bullshit and still uphold both the fourth amendment, and the selfrighteous idiots who have helped perpetuate the idea of never talking to the cops???? 1. Lock your doors. If you don't, you're an idiot. 2. Install cameras. 3. Start, or participate in neighborhood facebook, google, or every other social media group, where video gets shared among everyone. 4. DON"T LEAVE YOUR STUPID BULLSHIT IN YOUR CAR YOU MORON! 5. If you are stupid enough go break rule 4, then please write down the model numbers, serial numbers, and other identifying information. Keep it in an easily accessible place, and be able to provide it at a very quick notice. 6. Go back to square one, and don't leave valuable stuff, like computers, tablets, guns, cell phones, wallets, purses, or REALLY ANYTHING of value in your car. 7. increase lighting. 8. neighborhood watch... like an actual watch, not just relying on the 85 year old woman who has no life and calls police on everyone between the hourse of 7 am and whenever Matlock reruns end. Kevin Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." | |||
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I’m fortunate enough where I live that my keys are in my truck ignition for months at a time. The only crooks around here collect property taxes every October. I think the advice above is great. My suggestion would be motion detector lights and cameras, but passing cars may affect the lights. At work we have electric animal fences around certain devices. 50,000 volts, low amps. I dread bumping into it. If no one got hurt, it would make a pretty funny video... P226 9mm CT Springfield custom 1911 hardball Glock 21 Les Baer Special Tactical AR-15 | |||
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| As Extraordinary as Everyone Else  |
Only a slight thread drift but will come around... Several years ago I used to live in Galveston, Tx. and it was not uncommon to have to evacuate the island due to hurricanes. A friend of mine who just bought his first house had to evacuate and upon his return came home to find that his house had been broken into and his liquor stolen. On the next evacuation order the same thing happened... The third time the order was given my friend put something in the vodka (his brother was a Dr. And gave it to him) that gave the thief severe diarrhea causing him to have to go to the hospital where his brother was the ER physician...They had a nice talk when the doc realized that the kid lived behind his brother... Never had another problem! ------------------ Eddie Our Founding Fathers were men who understood that the right thing is not necessarily the written thing. -kkina | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine  |
I know it would make your job easier, but are you saying that you wished people were so ignorant of their rights that they didn't know enough to invoke them? We have those rights to protect us, and it doesn't seem quite cricket to have rights that people don't know they can use to protect themselves against the very thing the rights are meant for. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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| Big Stack |
Kev, I get what your saying and it makes sense, but there's one thing I'm missing. I would think an item reported stolen, that radioed out its exact location, would be a no-brainer to get a judge to sign off on a search warrant for that location. And if they've stolen one, more than likely they've stolen more. How does this not constitute enough probable cause for a warrant?
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| Little ray of sunshine |
Yes, well sure. But many departments won't get that involved in a minor property crime all that often. They don't have enough officers to handle the more serious crimes and emergencies. Like it or not, we are constrained by budgets. If we want no-stone-unturned policing in every case, of any kind, we have to expect to pay a lot more in taxes. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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We had someone, police believe a kid or kids, go through the neighborhood bouncing from car to car a few years ago. They didn't break in, just pulling handles on unlocked cars collecting what they could find. Funny thing was they would take something from one car, but drop it at the next if they found something better. The next morning, a lot of folks found their neighbors stuff left near their own pillaged car. "We have a system that increasingly taxes work, and increasingly subsidizes non-work" - Milton Friedman | |||
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| Big Stack |
JHE, I understand that, and while very possibly true, that's not what he was saying. Go back to his original statement:
This doesn't sound like a resource issue. He's making it sound like a legal issue, probably lack of probable cause. I'm finding that strange. I would think a stolen item, telling you where it is, would be glowing probable cause, very much enough for a search warrant. Obviously I'm missing something. I could be what you're saying, but the way he put it, it doesn't sound like it. And to resources, here robberies of cellphones (not so much burglaries) are a big deal, the police WILL go after the robbers, because they can get violent..
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Cotton mouth or King Cobra? "The days are stacked against what we think we are." Jim Harrison | |||
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| Sigforum K9 handler |
Please stop referring to this as a "minor property crime" because it is not. These guys are not hitting one car, and then calling it good on the way to their house. Most often, they'll hit 100 cars a night, and steal cash, purses, bank cards, and guns. Right now, the statistic at work is 14 guns are stolen out of unlocked vehicles for every one that is stolen from a house. The street value of a semi-automatic handgun is about $2800 when they trade it to dope. So, these crimes are lucrative for them to pull off and they are often done in the hours of darkness. If your LE agency is not trying, and I say trying because they are often really hard to crack open, these cases, they are part of the problem. These "minor property crimes" lead to so much more, and are often directly linked to the drug trade. Not to mention that a high percentage of these guns are used in homicides, drive bys, robberies, and other crimes. Don't store guns, or valuables in your vehicles, and lock your vehicles. Oh, and the poster who said that not taking up these cases because the politicians don't want bad stats knows nothing about how stats work in Part I and Part II crimes. Don't listen to anyone peddling that kind of nonsense. | |||
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I leave my car unlocked at all times. But the only thing I leave in it are work boots. Never a problem. "Ninja kick the damn rabbit" | |||
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I rest my case on “truck guns”. From now on, anyone who willfully leaves a firearm in a vehicle (other than momentary due to USPS/bar/whatnot prohibited carry location) is unhinged and should be tried as an accessory to any crime committed with the stolen firearm. *exceptions made for those living in rural areas or those with literally no recorded crimes of this ilk. Urban dwellers not excepted. | |||
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Has some comesuckers break into my FJ by smashing the rear and front passenger windows after they tried to jimmy the door. All just as it turned dark about 15’ from the front door of a Puleos Grill in Knoxville over a year ago. Police don’t even respond even though a pistol was stolen. You call a report in. Between the go bag with pistol and gear, wife’s purse bag, and damage to the truck over $11,000 in damage. We were returning from a trip to Dollywood and stopped to eat. My ‘go bag’ was buried under suitcases in the back which was covered over by an old Mexican blanket. They only took the go bag and wife’s Kavu bag being used for a purse. They also hit another car two down from ours. No gun stickers on the back window but I have Honorably Disharged license plate with a 101st Airborne surround. A FOP medallion and a Yeti Sticker. They left the Yeti also. My guess is they targeted because of the FOP medallion. Left the daughters iPad. The unlocked might have actually saved you although I’d never leave mine unlocked on purpose (and i know you didn’t on purpose.) Pistol went from Knoxville to Indianapolis to police property room in less than two weeks. Worst Department I’ve ever had the displeasure of being ignored by and I’m former LE. Still haven’t gotten it back. Cameras, alarms, lock boxes now.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 10X-Shooter, | |||
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Actually, they don't keep them in jail anyway. Better to cut off their hand on second offense. But that would upset the Democrats | |||
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| posting without pants |
You know damn good and well that isn't what I'm saying. If you REALLY don't, and aren't just being obtuse... Then I don't know how to help you. Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." | |||
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| posting without pants |
BBMW, I am saying EXACTLY that... In this jurisdiction, we would NEVER get a search warrant issued based upon the "locate my iPhone" app. Never, nada, not going to happen. Maybe as technology moves forward, and the courts and as such, case law, catches up, we could change that. But as of right now, there is approximately ZERO chance of getting a warrant based upon that. Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." | |||
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| posting without pants |
The last time we caught these idiots, (Felony Lane Gang 3.0) was the same as the first 2. They used at least half juveniles, and we could do very little to them. We chased a few, kicked a few asses when they fought us, arrested many... But the judges, politicians, and attorneys let them all go with ANOTHER slap on the wrist and they all came back down, (as if you could believe it) and did it AGAIN!?!?!?! Who would have thunk it that if you arrest people for a crime and don't actually make them face consequences for it that they will repeat offend??? Surely you jest? Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." | |||
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| Big Stack |
I believe you, but I'm a bit astounded. From a technical standpoint, I could not think of anything that could be better probable cause for a search warrant than having a theft complaint on an item, and the item itself telling you where it is. I wonder if someone put a GPS tracker on their toddler, the kid went missing, and the tracker gave a location, would they issue a warrant then?
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