August 19, 2018, 08:28 PM
bigdealThe ABCs of Failure
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Originally posted by synthplayer:
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Originally posted by barndg00:
Charter schools work pretty much across the board, regardless of the income level of the students, because they have an application - students and/or their families want them there, with an actual desire for an education. Get rid of the kids in public schools who are just there for baby sitting services and they would be successful, too.
If you close down the warehouses (inner city public schools) what are the miscreants going to do with their time all day?
Those miscreants are going to end up in the local penitentiary system eventually anyway, so you'd likely only be accelerating their arrival.
August 19, 2018, 09:36 PM
IcabodOur high school increased it standardized scores by teaching how to answer questions. Our security guard, a retired MSG, filmed a bunch of shorts. The kids in them behaved as they would in a military classroom. By teaching how to answer the 1 point, 2 point, essay parts, students understood how to respond.
Honestly, it was a hoot for everyone. When the results came back, scores had noticeably gone up.
Strangely, the principal didn’t run the videos again and that year’s scores dropped.
Sadly, students are never taught how to take the test or to understand what the questions ask.
As for charter schools, they can screen the students that they accept. As Bigdeal pointed out, getting the parents involved really helps. Misbehavior, absenteeism etc. gets them removed.
Sadly as synthplayer points out, too many schools warehouse students. What do you do with them? Truthfully, most of us would list 10-15 students that, if they were gone would solve a majority of the discipline issues. Where would they go?
August 19, 2018, 10:07 PM
JALLENquote:
Originally posted by Icabod:
Our high school increased it standardized scores by teaching how to answer questions. Our security guard, a retired MSG, filmed a bunch of shorts. The kids in them behaved as they would in a military classroom. By teaching how to answer the 1 point, 2 point, essay parts, students understood how to respond.
Honestly, it was a hoot for everyone. When the results came back, scores had noticeably gone up.
Strangely, the principal didn’t run the videos again and that year’s scores dropped.
Sadly, students are never taught how to take the test or to understand what the questions ask.
As for charter schools, they can screen the students that they accept. As Bigdeal pointed out, getting the parents involved really helps. Misbehavior, absenteeism etc. gets them removed.
Sadly as synthplayer points out, too many schools warehouse students. What do you do with them? Truthfully, most of us would list 10-15 students that, if they were gone would solve a majority of the discipline issues. Where would they go?
Maybe it is time to stop trying to blame parents or teachers or the government and start wondering about the students. After all, there are some students in every school who manage to overcome all these defects, deficiencies, detriments and impediments and learn most of what they are exposed to, and go on to lead responsible productive lives.
Maybe instead of memorizing capitals of countries, they should be exposed to responsibility, the rewards of taking care of yourself.
We probably ought to recognize that some will be worthless lazy irresponsible bums their entire life, try to give them every chance to avoid this, but it’s not our choice.