For those trapped behind enemy lines… vote for a “moderate” dem, or stick to your guns and vote republican/independant/libertarian/other?
I live in WA state, greater Seattle area. Hard “blue no matter who” country. <BR><BR>Today is the primary, most partisan races have a single republican while some don’t have any republican candisates. One has a third party I’ve never heard of and all have multiple democrats running. We are now a “jungle primary’ state where top two go to general. <BR><BR>So my dilemma… vote my true conscious as I did with Ross Perot (flush the vote), keep voting republican as usual, or knowing it will be a dem winner put my vote on the least loony dem. <BR><BR>Assuming a republican makes it to the general in Nov, they will get my vote. For the primary though I am kinda trying to help the least repulsive dem get there.<BR><BR>Thoughts?Principal above all else or try to mitigate the level of disasterPrincipal! Bitch and complain freely how much better it would be if your guy one.Accept dem dominion but try to mitigate the disaster and vote for least repugnantWA is a lost cause, use the ballot for firestarter or TPOther
What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???
August 04, 2026, 06:17 PM
PR64
I’m in much the same situation as you here in California.
I voted for the best Republican candidate in the primary. They came in a distant 5th.
Next week is the actual election vote. Two Democratic candidates are the only ones on the ballot.
I can’t vote for either. They both state in their platform that they will stand up to Trump etc.
Did I mention that this is to replace Swalwell. Yah, that’s my district and I have absolutely no representation…
It’s truly frustrating.
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August 04, 2026, 06:30 PM
Ronin101
I voted other..wich would be pack up and move to a free state. I couldnt live under that rule!!
August 04, 2026, 06:40 PM
chbibc
I live in upstate NY. I'll never vote for a Democrat. And that's all I've got to say about that.
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August 04, 2026, 06:55 PM
sjtill
With the Dem party the way it is, the only one in the country I would vote for is John Fetterman.
_________________________ “Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. –Daniel Webster (1782-1852)"
August 04, 2026, 07:49 PM
shovelhead
In Michigan at least for the primaries I want the least radical Democrat to win the U.S. Senate primary race here.
While Hayley Stevens is nauseating I fear that Abdul El-Sayed is truly dangerous having aligned himself with AOC, Bernie, Warren, all the radical lefties.
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August 04, 2026, 08:15 PM
Infidel
I picked principle. I also moved from the Seattle area myself two and a half years ago. I still work in WA state (Spokane), but I'm not going to subject myself to that cesspit's laws any longer than I have to.
Some of the other replies mention that you should also consider moving. I like the answer Nick Freitas gave on the subject:
I hate offended people. They come in two flavours - huffy and whiny - and it's hard to know which is worst. The huffy ones are self-important, narcissistic authoritarians in love with the sound of their own booming disapproval, while the whiny, sparrowlike ones are so annoying and sickly and ill-equipped for life on Earth you just want to smack them round the head until they stop crying and grow up. - Charlie Brooker
August 04, 2026, 08:39 PM
911Boss
Unfortunately leaving isn’t an option.
My mother in law has vascular dementia and is in an adult family home here. I’m her POA and I promised my wife we wouldn’t leave while she was still with us.
My hope is to exfil at some point, but I don’t have a say in the timing.
What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???
August 04, 2026, 09:14 PM
Infidel
quote:
Originally posted by 911Boss: My mother in law has vascular dementia and is in an adult family home here. I’m her POA and I promised my wife we wouldn’t leave while she was still with us.
Fair, and I'm sorry for what you and yours are dealing with right now.
I hate offended people. They come in two flavours - huffy and whiny - and it's hard to know which is worst. The huffy ones are self-important, narcissistic authoritarians in love with the sound of their own booming disapproval, while the whiny, sparrowlike ones are so annoying and sickly and ill-equipped for life on Earth you just want to smack them round the head until they stop crying and grow up. - Charlie Brooker
August 05, 2026, 06:36 AM
Salty Dawg
I like being able to say that I have never voted for a Democrat for anything in my life.
August 05, 2026, 06:42 AM
SIG4EVA
Pretty much like Charlotte. I vote conservative, know that I'm outnumbered, and move on with my life.
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August 05, 2026, 07:02 AM
chellim1
quote:
We are now a “jungle primary’ state where top two go to general.
So my dilemma… vote my true conscious as I did with Ross Perot (flush the vote), keep voting republican as usual, or knowing it will be a dem winner put my vote on the least loony dem.
I like the Nick Freitas video above, but beyond moving out of state here's a classic, practical answer from WFB:
William F. Buckley Jr. famously advocated voting for the "rightwardmost viable candidate"—commonly paraphrased as the most conservative candidate who has a realistic chance of winning.
The "Buckley Rule" Electoral Pragmatism: Buckley articulated this strategic approach during the 1964 Republican primaries, balancing ideological purity with practical mechanics. Moving the Center: The goal was to advance conservative principles and shift the political center of gravity over time, rather than wasting votes on unelectable candidates. Beyond Purity Tests: He warned against ideological rigidity, noting that politics is "not a lab test for product purity".
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
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August 05, 2026, 08:45 AM
Pipe Smoker
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?" "Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course." "But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?" "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in.”
“The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy” –Douglas Adams
Serious about crackers.
August 05, 2026, 09:10 AM
oddball
When I lived in CA years ago, I voted a few years in the "jungle primary, always voting Republican (even though most were RINOs). But I stopped voting altogether though my last one was the 2016 Presidential Election; in 2016, Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill to legalized ballot harvesting in the state, basically making the CA election process utterly useless. But by then, we were readying our house to sell. IMO, today, submitting a ballot in CA is the same as throwing it in the gutter; in 2018, Orange County turned from red to blue overnight, every state house seat went Democrat because of individuals turning in hundreds of ballots at a time each, all legal, at poll places. And now, every single registered voter automatically gets a mail-in ballot.
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August 05, 2026, 03:10 PM
CPD SIG
There’s Republicans on a local ballot? Now you guys are pulling my leg.
Chicago- I’m so deep behind enemy lines, it’s not even funny.
Unfortunately here, there’s no real “Republican” on a ballot. If there is, there’s unfortunately no way they get elected. Fortunately, there’s more and more right thinking Americans here! Why? You can thank the Dems! A lot of people are getting sick of their lies and bullshit. The Black Community here got pissed off that a lot of cash went to illegal aliens instead of them. There’s also a decent amount that got pissed off with the “mostly peaceful protest” and everything else that happened since 2020. So s-l-o-w-l-y, there’s more Republicans here.
Life imitates art? Or however that saying goes… Years ago there was a Southpark episode where the kids at school had to vote for the school mascot. A big giant douche or a turd sandwich was their choices. That’s pretty much every election here. I’m looking at the Mayoral election, there’s about 4 giant douches and 4 turd sandwiches to choose from now.
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August 05, 2026, 08:49 PM
lyman
one other firearms forum was promoting years ago what they called operation chaos,
in VA, you don't register by party, and can vote in either repub or dem primaries,
so the thought was to vote for the biggest idiot that would have the lesser chance of election in the dem primary, hoping that they would win and run against a repub,
I think the only option in such places, is to back a libertarian.
The Republican is never going to win. I think sane/sober libertarian candidates may be able to do well.
August 07, 2026, 06:30 PM
Nuclear
No such thing as a moderate Dem, even Fetterman votes in the high 90s with his party.
August 07, 2026, 09:26 PM
captain127
quote:
Originally posted by 911Boss: Unfortunately leaving isn’t an option.
My mother in law has vascular dementia and is in an adult family home here. I’m her POA and I promised my wife we wouldn’t leave while she was still with us.
My hope is to exfil at some point, but I don’t have a say in the timing.
This to me is about the ONLY reason to stay. A family member in need without the ability to beat feet. Have your ducks in a row and when the time comes hit the road
August 07, 2026, 10:28 PM
sourdough44
Here in the WI Gov race Tiffany is a great candidate on the Republican side. The left has a handful of misfits, the one near the top is F Hong.
She’s such a loon that even the current Gov and Bernie Sanders won’t endorse her. What does that tell you?
I closed my eyes, held my nose and voted for her in the primary. Again, Tiffany is already going to be on the ballot in November.
The final is this Tuesday, Hong is expected to win on the Dem side.