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More PC nonsense Holy Cross College may drop “Crusader”
November 26, 2017, 11:54 PM
spunk639More PC nonsense Holy Cross College may drop “Crusader”
It offended a Muslim and the crusaders killed Muslims.
More Massachusetts asshatery and PC nonsense.
http://www.bostonherald.com/ne...hed_crusader_monikerNovember 27, 2017, 01:47 AM
12131MA sounds like it's trying to take the title "The Land of Fruits and Nuts" from Kali.
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November 27, 2017, 10:19 AM
k5blazerWho do I complain to about Muslims killing Crusaders?
November 27, 2017, 11:16 AM
frayedendsMy son’s hockey team is associated with Holy Cross. They are the Junior Crusaders. Ughh. So sick of the PC nonsense. But can’t say I’m surprised.
These go to eleven.
November 27, 2017, 11:25 AM
lkdr1989So does this mean they're going to change the name to
Holy Crescent College?
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Gustoferquote:
Originally posted by k5blazer:
Who do I complain to about Muslims killing Crusaders?
Or all of the Christians they killed necessitating the Crusades.
Apparently they don't have a History department at that institution.
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November 27, 2017, 12:35 PM
RichardCI think its a good idea.
I'd like to suggest 'Daryl the Dhimmi' as their new mascot.
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November 27, 2017, 09:58 PM
BlackmoreI know quite a few Crusader alumni and this is definitely going to cost them some money.
Is Boston College going to drop the eagle since it is the symbol of the United States?
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November 27, 2017, 10:08 PM
SevenPlusOnequote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
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Originally posted by k5blazer:
Who do I complain to about Muslims killing Crusaders?
Or all of the Christians they killed necessitating the Crusades.
Apparently they don't have a History department at that institution.
I don't understand why non-Catholic Christians aren't offended by the term either. There were many "Crusades" which killed Christians, and non-Christian Europeans.
I mean, do these people not realize that "Crusaders" sacked Constantinople? Which weakened Christendom and helped the Turks take it?
"Ninja kick the damn rabbit" November 27, 2017, 10:20 PM
chellim1Every 500 years or so the Muslims need to be driven back into the Stone Age.
We are about due for another round of crusades.
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-rduckwor November 27, 2017, 11:25 PM
Rightwirequote:
Originally posted by k5blazer:
Who do I complain to about Muslims killing Crusaders?
Wait. Then or now?
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SevenPlusOnequote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
Every 500 years or so the Muslims need to be driven back into the Stone Age.
We are about due for another round of crusades.
That'll set them back what, two, three weeks?
"Ninja kick the damn rabbit" November 28, 2017, 11:28 PM
sjtillWhat about Crusader Rabbit?
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November 29, 2017, 10:47 AM
TMatsI tried to watch the panel discussion that took place at Holy Cross on the Crusader mascot. Painful. A table full of academics, including an apparently Muslim associate professor. Nearly all speaking in that familiar halting voice of an academic forming thoughts mid-sentence. Not one voice from athletics or the alumni association.
Holy Cross is a Catholic, Jesuit, college. Various popes ordered the Crusades. They thought they were doing the right thing in seeking to retake sacred places to Christianity (like Jerusalem) from the Muslims. The Muslim prof talked about the “destruction and loss of life” then transitioned to the balance of the “alleged good.”
I would say it’s a done deal. They’ll be the “Artifacts” or some damn thing by next fall.
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November 29, 2017, 10:56 AM
chellim1quote:
I would say it’s a done deal. They’ll be the “Artifacts” or some damn thing by next fall.
Also, since you bring up the Crusades...
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Various popes ordered the Crusades. They thought they were doing the right thing in seeking to retake sacred places to Christianity (like Jerusalem) from the Muslims.
There's a reason why "They thought they were doing the right thing in seeking to retake sacred places to Christianity (like Jerusalem) from the Muslims."
It's not that Christians are intolerant of other religions. It's that when Muslims take over they destroy everything else, including every artifact of every other religion.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor November 29, 2017, 11:32 AM
TMatsquote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
Also, since you bring up the Crusades...
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Various popes ordered the Crusades. They thought they were doing the right thing in seeking to retake sacred places to Christianity (like Jerusalem) from the Muslims.
There's a reason why "They thought they were doing the right thing in seeking to retake sacred places to Christianity (like Jerusalem) from the Muslims."
It's not that Christians are intolerant of other religions. It's that when Muslims take over they destroy everything else, including every artifact of every other religion.
Absolutely, in fact history tells us that the first Crusade was called after the destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher along with other religious buildings and artifacts in and around Jerusalem by order of the Caliph Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah.
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On 29 September 1009, Al-Hakim ordered a governor or Ramla called Yarukh to demolish the area around Constantine's original Church of the Holy Sepulchre. Yarukh, along with his son Yusuf, Al-Husayn ibn Zahir al-Wazzan and Abu'l-Farawis Al-Dayf were among those who started destroying various buildings. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre was said to be built on the site of the Calvary or Golgotha where Jesus was alleged to have been crucified, over a rock-cut room that Helena and Macarius identified as the location of the resurrection. The destruction was chronicled by Yahya ibn Sa'id of Antioch who noted it "cast down as far as the foundations" and the rock cut tomb was demolished in the attempt to "cause all trace of it to disappear". All sacred remains and holy relics were "completely annihilated". Iron hammers were ineffectual against the bedrock foundations of the tomb, so they resorted to burning it with fire.
The desecration was not only carried out on Christian sites in and around Jerusalem. In campaigns of 1011 and 1013–14, Al-Hakim continued his campaign of destruction against Jewish synagogues and Torah scrolls along with churches all over Syria. Unlike other Fatimids, Al-Hakim launched persecutions against dhimmis that lasted throughout his reign. Christians were made to wear crosses and Jews forced to wear wooden blocks around their necks. He only stopped for fear of retaliatory attacks on Mosques in Christian lands.
When the news reached Europe, Christians were horrified and Pope Sergius IV sent a circular letter to all churches calling for a holy fight in the Middle East and expulsion of Muslims from the Holy land. The events would later be recalled by Pope Urban II in his preaching for the Crusade at Clermont. Although the crusades happened almost a century after the desecration and caused by various other complex political intrigues, it was still very much in the public mind as a cause. It was considered so by William of Tyre. [cite: Wiki]
There isn’t a thing in the world wrong with the College of the Holy Cross calling themselves the Crusaders.
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November 29, 2017, 03:02 PM
Elk Hunterquote:
Originally posted by k5blazer:
Who do I complain to about Muslims killing Crusaders?
Or the 1000s of Christians? And, yes, I realize that the crusaders were probably all Christians. But that does not cover those Christians who lived in those countries.
And, did not the muslims conquer well into Spain? I doubt they did that without killing.
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