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The immeasurable value of Twitter under the guidance of Elon Musk
December 18, 2023, 01:55 PM
parabellumThe immeasurable value of Twitter under the guidance of Elon Musk
quote:
Originally posted by sjtill:
There is a lot of “hate speech” on X, the downside of a social medium dedicated to free speech.
As has been pointed out many times, popular speech doesn't really need protection; it's the stuff that offends many people that needs to be guarded against suppression.
I take issue with the term "hate speech" and of course I notice you put it into quotation marks, meaning it's not your choice of term for such speech. And if we're being honest, those in our society who whine about hate speech are most often the biggest purveyors of strident, jingoistic, racially-driven speech.
But, yes, these days, one can encounter some shockingly blunt racist commentary and memes on Twitter; things that could not have survived for a single minute on the old Twitter.
I'm certain that most people on the political left would misunderstand my meaning when I say that this is a good thing.
When full expression is allowed, it becomes the duty
and the right of the individual to determine the validity of what they encounter.
December 18, 2023, 02:03 PM
clubleaf206Evelyn Beatrice Hall said, "I may not agree with what you have to say, however I will defend to the death your right to say it", paraphrasing Voltaire.
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"....imitate the action of the Tiger."
December 18, 2023, 06:46 PM
FenrisI was generally neutral regarding Musk. Not really for or against. That has changed dramatically.
God Bless and Protect our Beloved President, Donald John Trump. December 18, 2023, 10:14 PM
divilFor all the good that Musk has done, I am admittedly pretty annoyed when any on the right criticize him for not being pure enough.
December 19, 2023, 09:38 AM
ensigmaticquote:
Originally posted by divil:
For all the good that Musk has done, I am admittedly pretty annoyed when any on the right criticize him for not being pure enough.
I do not believe Elon Musk regards himself a conservative.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher December 30, 2023, 10:43 PM
PASigElon Musk is going to be our last best hope heading into the elections this coming year as the censorship machine of the Left spins back up:
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/sta...314545485042092?s=46
December 31, 2023, 08:40 AM
nhracecraftquote:
Community Standards
Interesting way to spell CENSORSHIP!

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If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !!
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Live Free or Die!
December 31, 2023, 11:06 AM
Butch 2340D.Trump Jr. is a funny follow.
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January 06, 2024, 10:01 PM
FenrisSay, other than a lighter wallet, what do we get for subscribing to X?
God Bless and Protect our Beloved President, Donald John Trump. January 07, 2024, 09:45 AM
nukeandpaveIt's free (for now).
January 07, 2024, 10:05 AM
Bytesquote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
Say, other than a lighter wallet, what do we get for subscribing to X?
I joined because I wanted to support a platform that encourages free speech. X is not afraid to shed light on some subjects that were previously unreported. Para's post about Epstein is a good example. The Twitter files being released is another. We all knew government was involved in censorship but how they were involved and the extent of their involvement was unknown.
January 07, 2024, 10:07 AM
ensigmaticquote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
Say, other than a lighter wallet, what do we get for subscribing to X?
You get an endless source of entertainment, or annoyance, depending upon your perspective and how you chose what you follow

It doesn't have to cost anything. Just having an account is free--for now, at least.
Then there are three paid tiers: Basic ($3/mo. or $32/yr.), Premium ($8/mo. or $84/yr.), and Premium+ ($16/mo. or $168/yr.). Basic doesn't give you much over an unpaid account. Premium gives you several things, incl. the ability to become Verified and get a blue check-mark. Premium+ gives you, among other things, access to X's AI: Grok.
You can find all kinds of details at
About X PremiumI encourage everybody to get at least a Basic account to support the platform.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher January 07, 2024, 11:02 AM
Pipe Smokerquote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
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Premium+ gives you, among other things, access to X's AI: Grok.
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I thought Musk warned of the dangers that AI poses.
Serious about crackers. January 07, 2024, 11:36 AM
ensigmaticquote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
I thought Musk warned of the dangers that AI poses.
Correct.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher January 11, 2024, 11:11 PM
Skins2881quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
quote:
Originally posted by sjtill:
There is a lot of “hate speech” on X, the downside of a social medium dedicated to free speech.
As has been pointed out many times, popular speech doesn't really need protection; it's the stuff that offends many people that needs to be guarded against suppression.
I take issue with the term "hate speech" and of course I notice you put it into quotation marks, meaning it's not your choice of term for such speech. And if we're being honest, those in our society who whine about hate speech are most often the biggest purveyors of strident, jingoistic, racially-driven speech.
But, yes, these days, one can encounter some shockingly blunt racist commentary and memes on Twitter; things that could not have survived for a single minute on the old Twitter.
I'm certain that most people on the political left would misunderstand my meaning when I say that this is a good thing.
When full expression is allowed, it becomes the duty
and the right of the individual to determine the validity of what they encounter.
I don't use Twitter, 95% of my exposure is here, simply because I am not providing them my phone number.
Honestly bring on the hate speech; the love speech; the ambivalent speech; but most of all, the free speech.
If someone posts something I don't like, I assume I have the option to block them. I further assume that if 6,000,000 people block them, their content gets deranked into a far vast empty region of the internet as well.
If people want to say offensive shit, let them. Let the individuals saying it face the consequences, not the corkboard in the town center.
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis January 15, 2024, 05:36 PM
6guns^^^ But no problem before. Assholes!
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