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Slayer of Agapanthus |
My mother did the same when I swiped a pack of gum at 3/4/5 years of age. She directed the right thing to do, return it and show remorse. I have a vague memory of the event but most certainly was not traumatized. Why not steal? A), G-d says not to do it. B), a thieving society is unsustainable. C), 'I do not steal because I do not like being stolen from'. D), I will be punished if caught. E), Karma. Clearly the "mother" chose the inversion of D, 'it's not wrong if I do not get caught'. Tie off her tubes and remove the children to good homes. "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye". The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, pilot and author, lost on mission, July 1944, Med Theatre. | |||
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I’m not clear on this. Woman’s kid tried to steal something. What is she yelling at your son about? And then, why is an adult yelling at a kid? Have an issue, take it up with the adult supervising the kid. The thief and the mom shouldn’t be allowed in this organization. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Member |
Scout camp is a great place for the little thief. That way he can get used to living in a communal setting surrounded by men. That's how he's likely going to be spending long stretches of his life. | |||
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Raised Hands Surround Us Three Nails To Protect Us |
Me exactly!! I was about 5 years old, it was orange Tic tacs, from The Walgreens. Mom heard them clanking around as I was opening them in the back seat and marched my little tail end back inside. This fella never stole again. But back to the OP good on your boy!!!! What did he get as a reward for his actions? ———————————————— The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad. If we got each other, and that's all we have. I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand. You should know I'll be there for you! | |||
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Was the kid's name Dindu Nuffin? From the large clan in America? | |||
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Objectively Reasonable |
And a refresher on the 10th point: A Scout is Brave. | |||
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chickenshit |
BB61 I would not let this go. That director is being worse than negligent. Take it further up the chain of command. ____________________________ Yes, Para does appreciate humor. | |||
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+1
______________________________________________ Life is short. It’s shorter with the wrong gun… | |||
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Uppity Helot |
If garbage like this is the present and future of scouting then I will not bother sending my 2 Sons into scouts. | |||
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Don't Panic |
Yep. Every single individual in that story, except BB61's son and his friend running the store, did exactly the wrong thing, and got away with it. So far, that is. Camp directors have bosses, too. | |||
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Shit don't mean shit |
For me it was a matchbox car from a store called Two Guys. Dad took me back to the store, called the store manager and had me give it back to him. I vividly remember this as it was about a week before Easter. My 2 boys 6 & 7 are in cub scouts. Last year I took them to the scout shop to get their shirt when the oldest went from a Lion to a Tiger. Oldest one swiped a Tiger pin while I wasn't looking. I found out after we got home. I had him write a letter apologizing for stealing. Then, I took them back to the store and had him give the letter to the store clerk and apologize in person. We also had a long talk about why stealing was wrong. I think he's cured...for now. If he does it again when he gets a little older we'll go from there. | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.” - Apocryphally attributed to Edumund Burke I would almost lay money, and give you odds, you're right, OMCHamlin. More's the pity "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Does the director have a set? Lots of recent changes to scouting. ________________________ P229 Stainless Elite P320 X-Five Legion P320 X-Carry | |||
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Member |
When I was eight I figured out at a grocery store that I could hack the quarter candy dispenser. When we left the store, I proudly told my mother, pockets full of candy, what I'd done. She drove me back to the store, made me apologize to the manager for my actions and required I police the parking lot every time we went grocery shopping for months. ________________________ P229 Stainless Elite P320 X-Five Legion P320 X-Carry | |||
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Security Sage |
Had this happened to one of our boys, I would have gone to the council directly. A director like that needs to be removed. We got so disillusioned with scouts that our guys were out by the time they hit middle school. Problems with some leaders, clique behavior, etc. the cubs were better. RB Cancer fighter (Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma) since 2009, now fighting Diffuse Large B-Cell Lymphoma. | |||
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Eschew Obfuscation |
I know I'm getting old because this is similar to what would have happened to me. Except that it would have been my old man. And, I would not have to worry about being expelled because, after whipping my ass with a belt and having me apologize, my old man would have pulled me from the camp and taken me home. _____________________________________________________________________ “One of the common failings among honorable people is a failure to appreciate how thoroughly dishonorable some other people can be, and how dangerous it is to trust them.” – Thomas Sowell | |||
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Res ipsa loquitur |
The kid and his mom weren’t back today (it’s a smaller camp) for day two of the camp. __________________________ | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
Well, maybe the director had a word with them, anyway, but simply chose to handle it quietly. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Delusions of Adequacy |
We had a theft incident when I was active. Kid was expelled from camp. Troop kicked him out. Pretty sure his parents disciplined him too. My, how times have changed. When this kid gets shot in a robbery or burglary in five years, his momma's gonna scream on about how it "ain't his fault". I have my own style of humor. I call it Snarkasm. | |||
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Dirty Boat Guy |
Some of y'all need to consider putting away that broad brush. My boy is in the Scouts and there is NO doubt in my mind (or anyone else in this troop) that Son would have been called on the carpet and Mom would have been directed to pack up and leave if she tried that stunt. A penny saved is a government oversight. | |||
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