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SECWAR Hegseth summons everybody ranked 1-star and above to attend meeting
September 26, 2025, 10:27 AM
corsairSECWAR Hegseth summons everybody ranked 1-star and above to attend meeting
Rumormill wants to think we're going to war; don't need a meeting like this to layout a warning order. I think this is simply a commander's intent-type of meeting, SECWAR is going to lay-out what's expected for the brass and knock-off any political talk. Unusual meeting at this rank but, a more common gathering at the battalion, bridge, squadron, group level units.
Hegseth abruptly summons hundreds of top military leaders to meeting quote:
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has summoned the military’s top officers — hundreds of generals and admirals — to a base in northern Virginia for a sudden meeting next week, according to three people familiar with the matter.
The directive did not offer a reason for the gathering Tuesday of senior commanders of the one-star rank or higher and their top advisers at the Marine Corps base in Quantico. The people, who described the move as unusual, were not authorized to publicly discuss the sensitive plans and spoke on condition of anonymity.
The Pentagon’s top spokesman, Sean Parnell, confirmed that Hegseth “will be addressing his senior military leaders early next week.”
Across the military, there are 800 generals and admirals of all ranks. Many command thousands of service members and are stationed across the world in more than a dozen countries and time zones.
The meeting, first reported by The Washington Post, comes on the heels of several unusual and unexplained actions that Hegseth has taken involving military leaders.
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September 26, 2025, 10:31 AM
benny6Hopefully this is a house cleaning event.
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September 26, 2025, 10:48 AM
P220 Smudgequote:
Originally posted by benny6:
Hopefully this is a house cleaning event.
Having no military background, I just want to say this sort of thing sounds fantastic to me. All we heard during the last administration was all the pageantry of all the DEI and trannies being celebrated. Would love to see all that shit go away and us pivot to the military again being about being ready, willing, and supremely capable of absolutely fucking up anyone and everyone.
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September 26, 2025, 11:19 AM
AglifterMy guess is housecleaning/some manner of warning about personal political agendas/corruption etc.
September 26, 2025, 11:19 AM
PASigI think he wants to see how many useless flag officers we actually have
September 26, 2025, 11:20 AM
911BossThey need to pledge fealty to the High Table…
What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???
September 26, 2025, 11:26 AM
smlsig800 Generals and Admirals???
WTF!
We won WW2 with just a handful of generals and had many, many more servicemen & women.
Time for a house cleaning…
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September 26, 2025, 11:31 AM
DrDanquote:
Originally posted by smlsig:
800 Generals and Admirals???
WTF!
We won WW2 with just a handful of generals and had many, many more servicemen & women.
Time for a house cleaning…
A quick search says we had over 2000 flag rank officers during WW2
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RogueJSKNuh-uh... The History Channel says Eisenhower, Patton, and MacArthur won the whole thing themselves.
September 26, 2025, 11:54 AM
Sig2340quote:
Originally posted by DrDan:
quote:
Originally posted by smlsig:
800 Generals and Admirals???
WTF!
We won WW2 with just a handful of generals and had many, many more servicemen & women.
Time for a house cleaning…
A quick search says we had over 2000 flag rank officers during WW2
For a military force at peak of 16,000,000 not counting the workers at defense plants where flag officers oversaw production.
That's one flag officer for every 8,000 military personnel.
Today the force is about 2,100,000.
800 flag officers is one for every 2,600 military personnel.
I recall when I worked under contract to the Marine Corps in 1997 listening to active duty and retired O-5s and O-6s complain that the Marines had too many flag officers (IIRC, it was over 150) and was not organized as they would be deployed for war.
I say fire 90% of the current crop, promote new officers, and call it a day.
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September 26, 2025, 12:01 PM
PeteFAnyone else have a problem with announcing the location and date of Secwar and 800 flag officers to the public? OPSEC amyone?
September 26, 2025, 12:35 PM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by PeteF:
OPSEC anyone?
That's a liqueur, right?
The Secwar may want some before we go to DEFCON-4. Proceed with the SITREP
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September 26, 2025, 01:02 PM
Rey HRHI'm thinking they suspect their secure communication system isn't secure. You don't bring everyone in military leadership all in one spot for canapes and hors d'oeuvres.
It probably is to get a positive buy-in of the current administration's values and policies intended for the Department of War.
"Ladies and gentlemen, you have exactly 60 seconds to shit or get off the pot."
And if you need a meeting in preparation for a war, you don't have much of a war department in the first place.
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September 26, 2025, 02:30 PM
creedbratton2Maybe it's just a mass PT test?
See how many can do the bobby and Pete challenge
See how many can pass height/weight
Kidding on all fronts of course.
September 26, 2025, 02:55 PM
FenderBenderquote:
Originally posted by PeteF:
Anyone else have a problem with announcing the location and date of Secwar and 800 flag officers to the public? OPSEC amyone?
I don't think anyone is that stupid, it'd be a nuclear response.
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September 26, 2025, 02:59 PM
captain127quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
quote:
Originally posted by DrDan:
quote:
Originally posted by smlsig:
800 Generals and Admirals???
WTF!
We won WW2 with just a handful of generals and had many, many more servicemen & women.
Time for a house cleaning…
A quick search says we had over 2000 flag rank officers during WW2
For a military force at peak of 16,000,000 not counting the workers at defense plants where flag officers oversaw production.
That's one flag officer for every 8,000 military personnel.
Today the force is about 2,100,000.
800 flag officers is one for every 2,600 military personnel.
I recall when I worked under contract to the Marine Corps in 1997 listening to active duty and retired O-5s and O-6s complain that the Marines had too many flag officers (IIRC, it was over 150) and was not organized as they would be deployed for war.
I say fire 90% of the current crop, promote new officers, and call it a day.
I saw a clip from Hegseth discussing exactly this. Per that clip, his goal was a 20% reduction in flag officers this year, then another 20% next year.
As an old soldier, one thing we need to fix ( which should be pretty easy in the digital age) is our tooth to tail ratio. If memory serves, in WWII there was something like 10 support troops to every infantryman, and that ratio is now like 20:1. The archaic Army system of echelons of supply and repair ( where each echelon was authorized a certain amount of services they could do on a particular item) should go. Letting more repairs be effected closer to lines of battle, and skipping to a depot level repair, without multiple steps in between is more logical today. And bear in mind every echelon of support, be it maintenance supply admin etc all have a top heavy command structure associate with it.
September 26, 2025, 03:49 PM
tatortoddquote:
Originally posted by captain127:
I saw a clip from Hegseth discussing exactly this. Per that clip, his goal was a 20% reduction in flag officers this year, then another 20% next year.
I'm not former military, but I suspect Pete is going to take a play out of Corporate America's 1990s downsizing playbook and utter the phrase "look left and look right, those people won't be here in 2 years"
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wishfull thinkerquote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
quote:
Originally posted by captain127:
I saw a clip from Hegseth discussing exactly this. Per that clip, his goal was a 20% reduction in flag officers this year, then another 20% next year.
I'm not former military, but I suspect Pete is going to take a play out of Corporate America's 1990s downsizing playbook and utter the phrase "look left and look right, those people won't be here in 2 years"
You could very well be right but if I was running an organization and needed to unfuck it the military would not be my model. even of the 90s.
Regional businesses would get my first look; lighter on how it looks to the news pukes. bigger on meeting the mission.
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September 26, 2025, 07:31 PM
BassamaticHe probably wouldn't have to shitcan anyone. Normal attrition --without replacement--would probably do the job in just a few years.
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armoredHe might want to discuss the Alien space craft approaching from the other side of the Sun.