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Yet December 25th rolls around and their Facebook page is full of pictures of their Christmas Tree and a bunch of gifts Roll Eyes


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Although I don't mock Christ and Christian, I am agnostic and my family celebrates the Christmas Holiday. For us it's about family, tradition and culture. I realize for some it has a very deep religious connection and others some lesser degree while still other, like me, have no religious feelings at all about the celebration.


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The Left looks at Christmas as a double win.

One, it's a day when there's a lot of giving, so Liberals look at this as an entitlement. Two, it's sponsored by the Christians they despise, so they feel like Christians are working for them on Christmas.
 
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Yeah, I have seen it. I also love how at 6:00 PM Christmas day it's over. No ya got 11 more days.
Yet in the stores, Christmas stuff is up now in October! Come on, give me a break.

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Yeah Christ loved his Trees and Black Friday was his best night at getting new members to up their tithe amounts. Razz
 
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I don't mock Christ and Christians...
This is the most important sentiment in this thread. I don't give a damn what you or anyone else thinks about Christmas. The only thing I 'do' care about is that we all stay out of each other's business and allow everyone the opportunity to enjoy the day/season how they and/or their families see fit. For me and mine, its part religious celebration and part a day with family I look forward to every year.


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Sort-a like an atheist saying there is no God and then first thing you know when they get into a hard place or are befallen by dire illness the first thing you hear out of their mouth is the phrase "Oh Lord have mercy on me" or something similar.


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Do not find it interesting, at all.

Will not get into a discussion of God, Christ or who should believe.

It is, IMO, truly personal issue/choice.

Believe, or not believe. According to my beliefs based on a lot of study we each will stand before Christ and have our actions reviewed and judged.

That makes it personal and no amount of discussion will change it.


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Anyone find it interesting when folks claim to love Christ and Christianity all year, yet December 25th rolls around and there they are observing a pagan celebration?



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Anyone find it interesting when folks claim to love Christ and Christianity all year, yet December 25th rolls around and there they are observing a pagan celebration?


Yep, and a Merry Saturnalia to you!

The question nobody asks is if Jesus was even born in December at all. Once you go down that path, there is no end to the pagan rabbit hole you find yourself in.

But hey, Jesus probably doesn't mind having purely pagon customs and practices attributed to him, right? Eek

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Sort-a like an atheist saying there is no God and then first thing you know when they get into a hard place or are befallen by dire illness the first thing you hear out of their mouth is the phrase "Oh Lord have mercy on me" or something similar.


If you’re really interested in why some atheists and other a-religionists revert to religious pleas in times of great pain or other distress it’s because even today the vast majority of American nonbelievers are exposed to religious teachings during their early childhoods. Most of them become atheists, agnostics, etc., after years of religious indoctrination at the most impressionable times of their lives. As a famous Jesuit* is claimed to have said, “Give me the child for the first seven years and I will give you the man.”

When people are in great distress, they are more likely to be motivated by fear and other emotion rather than by logic and critical thinking. There are countless accounts of soldiers who were dying in combat calling for their mothers. Do they really believe their mothers will suddenly appear and offer them comfort in their death agonies? Probably not, but that’s who they went to when they were little children and that’s who they go back to in their final moments.

The most common expression about all this is, “there are no atheists in foxholes.” That statement is obviously not completely true, but to the to the extent that it reflects some truth, it tells us far more about foxholes and military combat than it does about atheists.

* Who first said that is disputed, but the point is nevertheless valid regardless of who it was.




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Since the “Christmas” tree was adapted from a Pagan tradition, nope. I’m atheist and still have a tree and celebrate in the same manner. Religion is not involved on this day for my family. It’s more of a family tradition where we all get together and exchange gifts, decorate, etc.


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Do not find it interesting, at all.

Will not get into a discussion of God, Christ or who should believe.

It is, IMO, truly personal issue/choice.

Believe, or not believe. According to my beliefs based on a lot of study we each will stand before Christ and have our actions reviewed and judged.

That makes it personal and no amount of discussion will change it.


Agreed. Not about telling anyone what to believe either I just find it strange folks spend the majority of the year mocking Christ and those that believe then come Christmas which is the Celebration of the birth of Christ and they are all about it.


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Do not find it interesting, at all.

Will not get into a discussion of God, Christ or who should believe.

It is, IMO, truly personal issue/choice.

Believe, or not believe. According to my beliefs based on a lot of study we each will stand before Christ and have our actions reviewed and judged.

That makes it personal and no amount of discussion will change it.


Agreed. Not about telling anyone what to believe either I just find it strange folks spend the majority of the year mocking Christ and those that believe then come Christmas which is the Celebration of the birth of Christ and they are all about it.


Agreed


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I've been on this forum for a very long time. I've served the American people for over 14 years in a non military function.

So, personally, what is the point of this conversations? I totally believe in Christmas, having been raised in Ohio by Lutherans. I am however, not a "christian". I personally celebrate Christmas and Easter, no matter where I am in the world.

I have never "mocked" Christ. I went through Lutheran catechism, was an alter boy even.

I guess, my point being is that if you are offended by other moronic "chatter" then how strong is your personal faith?


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Originally posted by SIG 229R:
Sort-a like an atheist saying there is no God and then first thing you know when they get into a hard place or are befallen by dire illness the first thing you hear out of their mouth is the phrase "Oh Lord have mercy on me" or something similar.


If you’re really interested in why some atheists and other a-religionists revert to religious pleas in times of great pain or other distress it’s because even today the vast majority of American nonbelievers are exposed to religious teachings during their early childhoods. Most of them become atheists, agnostics, etc., after years of religious indoctrination at the most impressionable times of their lives. As a famous Jesuit* is claimed to have said, “Give me the child for the first seven years and I will give you the man.”

When people are in great distress, they are more likely to be motivated by fear and other emotion rather than by logic and critical thinking. There are countless accounts of soldiers who were dying in combat calling for their mothers. Do they really believe their mothers will suddenly appear and offer them comfort in their death agonies? Probably not, but that’s who they went to when they were little children and that’s who they go back to in their final moments.

The most common expression about all this is, “there are no atheists in foxholes.” That statement is obviously not completely true, but to the to the extent that it reflects some truth, it tells us far more about foxholes and military combat than it does about atheists.

* Who first said that is disputed, but the point is nevertheless valid regardless of who it was.


Additionally, I think many times people use terms like "lord help me" simply because such expressions are part of our culture, and particularly appropos when one feels somewhat helpless, like their future is not in their own hands. It normally has nothing to do with a genuine appeal to otherwordly powers for non believers.
 
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Cultures evolve. Christmas, as a cultural event is also evolving. It is so much more commercialize than it was when I was young. My response as a Christian is to personally behave more they way I think Christ would as best I can. If the cultural trend continues, Christmas will have very little to do with Christ at all. That's okay, I'll still practice as I see fit.



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I’m not a Christian and don’t really care what people do or don’t do. Just mind your own beeswax and the world will be a better place. I grew up with plenty of Jews that celebrated Xmas as a cultural event (kids want toys) and that’s all it really is. People who truly love and celebrate Jesus do it on the 23rd, 24th, 25th, 26th, etc... the 25th is just another day.


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I've been on this forum for a very long time. I've served the American people for over 14 years in a non military function.

So, personally, what is the point of this conversations? I totally believe in Christmas, having been raised in Ohio by Lutherans. I am however, not a "christian". I personally celebrate Christmas and Easter, no matter where I am in the world.

I have never "mocked" Christ. I went through Lutheran catechism, was an alter boy even.

I guess, my point being is that if you are offended by other moronic "chatter" then how strong is your personal faith?


Then you are clearly not the type I am referring to.

Also, did not mention anywhere that I was offended. Folks mock Christianity all the time and does not bother me in the slightest.

I find it interesting that those who spend all year MOCKING (key word there) get very excited over celebrating one of the most important holidays to that religion.

I did not say I find it interesting that those who are not Christians celebrate the holiday.
You sir fall under the category of not being a Christian but being respectful of the religion and the holiday. I don’t find that interesting or strange at all.

Much like I am a Christian and not Jewish but would gladly sit down and celebrate a Passover or Hannuakah meal with my friends that are Jewish.

Nothing wrong or strange with being respectful of others beliefs that are different than yours and even partaking in their festivities. But when one staunchly mocks and critisizes a religion or belief the majority of there year then partake in their celebrations I find that odd.


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