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Originally posted by kkina:

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Originally posted by dsiets:
I can't find any Toyota Helix w/ a search.

Thought it was Helux.

Or that one either.

Move along. Nothing to see here.

They could make a crew cab and call it DNA. (Double Helix)

I'll shut up now.

My beach vehicle!

My nephew works in Honduras and the Toyota Hilux reigns supreme in his area. We had a conversation over Thanksgiving and both would take a Hilux in a minute if they were available in the US.

However, there is good news and bad news. The good news (link to source below). President Donald Trump announced on Wednesday that his administration is loosening regulations to permit the production of smaller, ultra-compact cars in the United States, a category that includes the types of miniature vehicles widely popular in Japan and other parts of East Asia. Trump said he has directed Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy to remove barriers that previously blocked these cars from being made and sold in the US, and to roll back Biden-era fuel efficiency standards that the administration claimed "effectively resulted in an electric vehicle (EV) mandate."

The bad news? It will take a while until we can buy a Hilux. However, rolling back the relentless drive to EV makes sense. The infrastructure for EV isn't ready for mass deployment and the costs remain too high. If auto companies were smart, they would continue development of EV but maintain a broader program of ICE and EV development. I suspect the engineering department would like that but the bean counters will block it.


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https://www.timesnownews.com/w...id-article-153247882

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Originally posted by SPWAMike0317:
My nephew works in Honduras and the Toyota Hilux reigns supreme in his area. We had a conversation over Thanksgiving and both would take a Hilux in a minute if they were available in the US.

However, there is good news and bad news. The good news (link to source below). President Donald Trump announced on Wednesday that his administration is loosening regulations to permit the production of smaller, ultra-compact cars in the United States, a category that includes the types of miniature vehicles widely popular in Japan and other parts of East Asia. Trump said he has directed Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy to remove barriers that previously blocked these cars from being made and sold in the US, and to roll back Biden-era fuel efficiency standards that the administration claimed "effectively resulted in an electric vehicle (EV) mandate."

The bad news? It will take a while until we can buy a Hilux. However, rolling back the relentless drive to EV makes sense. The infrastructure for EV isn't ready for mass deployment and the costs remain too high. If auto companies were smart, they would continue development of EV but maintain a broader program of ICE and EV development. I suspect the engineering department would like that but the bean counters will block it.


Source:
https://www.timesnownews.com/w...id-article-153247882

It sounds like this could open up the market to a lot more than just the Hilux. Europe and Asia have all sorts of small, efficient gas and diesel vehicles that have never been sold in the US due to environmental and safety regulations. They're not big and they're not comfortable, but they're way more economical than the luxobarges that even our domestic "compacts" have turned into. It'll be interesting to see what this change does to the automotive market as a whole. Cars have gotten way too damn expensive, and this move could be a brilliant way to shake that up.

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Originally posted by egregore:
They could make a crew cab and call it DNA. (Double Helix)

Good one, sir.

Do they come in 4WD?

Until Toyota announces the vehicle will be available here, it’s internet speculation. Sorry but there are countless videos about vehicles that never hit the market.

If they do offer the Hilux, and the price is right, they will sell like hotcakes.

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Originally posted by Jupiter:

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
Knowing Toyota extremely well, do NOT count on this $20k nonsense.

I couldn't agree more.

Yeah like has been astutely said here $35,000 will be the likely seen number. I’m sure the will be dealers moving white work trucks but the typical Toyota dealers will want to load these with options so they can sell them to those (like myself) who can’t afford or rationalize what Tacomas go for now. My 89 Silverado is about dead and I need a truck for my small rural property.


Toyota lists HVAC as an option on their site.

The addition of insulation and ventilation systems ensures a pleasant environment, whether you’re basking in the sun or escaping the heat.

I just really hope this materializes.
The price of new cars has made me disinterested in new cars and this has literally everything I want at my price point.

I would love to see this thing with the legendary 22r engine.

Toyota already has a new truck, smaller and cheaper than Tacoma, coming to the US later next year or 2027. It's called the Stout and will be monocoque construction like Ridgeline, Maverick, and Santa Cruz.

Personally I'd like to see a small conventional body on frame truck more along the size of the old S10 or original Ranger. Give it a 6'-6.5' bed and a small area behind the front bench seat just big enough for tools, groceries, dog, etc. Make the truck small but high quality.

Base model would have a small 4-cylinder, 2wd, manual transmission, vinyl floor mats, cruise, and roll-up windows.

Limited options would include auto trans, basic 4WD, turbo or larger 4-cylinder engine, maybe a more upscale interior package.

Here is a diesel version. The possibilities are endless.

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Originally posted by ridewv:

Personally I'd like to see a small conventional body on frame truck more along the size of the old S10 or original Ranger. Give it a 6'-6.5' bed and a small area behind the front bench seat just big enough for tools, groceries, dog, etc. Make the truck small but high quality.

Base model would have a small 4-cylinder, 2wd, manual transmission, vinyl floor mats, cruise, and roll-up windows.

Limited options would include auto trans, basic 4WD, turbo or larger 4-cylinder engine, maybe a more upscale interior package.

I think that's all most of us ever wanted. I loved the '76 Datsun 620 pickup I learned to drive in.

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Originally posted by ridewv:
Toyota already has a new truck, smaller and cheaper than Tacoma, coming to the US later next year or 2027. It's called the Stout and will be monocoque construction like Ridgeline, Maverick, and Santa Cruz.

Personally I'd like to see a small conventional body on frame truck more along the size of the old S10 or original Ranger. Give it a 6'-6.5' bed and a small area behind the front bench seat just big enough for tools, groceries, dog, etc. Make the truck small but high quality.

Base model would have a small 4-cylinder, 2wd, manual transmission, vinyl floor mats, cruise, and roll-up windows.

Limited options would include auto trans, basic 4WD, turbo or larger 4-cylinder engine, maybe a more upscale interior package.

A lot of people are pining for those small, simple trucks of yore, me included. Perhaps Toyota will give us an economy version of the Stout, but I doubt it.

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Originally posted by jaaron11:

A lot of people are pining for those small, simple trucks of yore, me included. Perhaps Toyota will give us an economy version of the Stout, but I doubt it.

You're probably correct. It'll be loosely based on their Rav4 and AFAIK they don't offer a true base model Rav. I just hope they offer a 1 1/2 cab option and not only crew cab versions (like Maverick and Ranger) so one can have a 6' bed.

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Originally posted by Jupiter:
I would love to see this thing with the legendary 22r engine.

I've owned two trucks with the 22R. Totally trouble free .

I really hope that the diesel and drop side bed make it to the US domestic market. They added so much utility.

Having a drop side bed like that is like air-conditioning… Once you have it, it’s hard to go without it.

My worry as they Americanize it by putting on a grill that looks like the tundra in Tacoma and leave us with a conventional bed and no diesel option.

Toyota could do as much as they legally could in Mexico and do final assembly at a plant in the US.
I’m sure there are lots of municipalities and private contractors that would be happy to not pay the fuel cost of larger vehicle vehicles that are under utilized. It amazed me in Europe, how almost every trade works out of the small Ford transit style vans compared to our full size vans and cubes.

Toyota would also be cutting in to the side-by-side market in my opinion. There are plenty of side-by-side that are over 20 grand. It’s obviously not a direct comparison but I think there would be some overlap there in the customer base.

I would certainly like to get one!

A diesel will most likely still have the exhaust fluid, particulate filter and other emissions baggage. Nobody said anything about relaxing emissions standards.

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Personally I'd like to see a small conventional body on frame truck more along the size of the old S10 or original Ranger. Give it a 6'-6.5' bed and a small area behind the front bench seat just big enough for tools, groceries, dog, etc. Make the truck small but high quality.

YES!!!!!!!!! I'm still driving my 2007 Frontier extended cab because I can't find a replacement I like or can afford or both