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The Rules changed, Toyota will bring Helux Champ to USA
December 04, 2025, 10:47 AM
HRKThe Rules changed, Toyota will bring Helux Champ to USA
https://x.com/WallStreetMav/st.../1996440828533706976December 04, 2025, 10:52 AM
vthoky$20k, looking like that, and built here in the States?
Pfft, I'd buy one!

Gray, manual transmission, and diesel, please.

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Hilux Champ site Slashgear article
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God bless America. December 04, 2025, 11:00 AM
Sacramento JohnsonYep, I'd like a closer look as well!
December 04, 2025, 11:01 AM
ridewvThank goodness finally!
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December 04, 2025, 11:04 AM
Johnny 3eaglesFirst delivery to Minneapolis for Somali use. Gun mounts optional?
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December 04, 2025, 11:09 AM
12131Maybe this will satisfy my
bare bone basic requirement.

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December 04, 2025, 11:11 AM
PrefontaineKnowing Toyota extremely well, do NOT count on this $20k nonsense. Would definitely be less than a Tacoma, etc, but not a chance and hell at that price point. Toyota works based on an allocation system and Toyota is divided up into distributors in the US. Each distributor has a port and the port always adds, add-ons, or port installed options. And they always add this and that for different trim levels. So count on a lower starting price than the Tacoma. So maybe a base model would be $25k. Higher trims crossing the $30k MSRP level.
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December 04, 2025, 11:25 AM
92fstechI don't imagine it'll come with the fancy wheels and tint, but even without that's pretty compelling. We need more barebones truck options for doing actual truck things. Our market is saturated with poser mall-crawlers that cost more than a house.
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December 04, 2025, 11:27 AM
nhtagmemberif true its a great move to increase their market share for people that can't afford the Tacoma or Tundra line of pickups
December 04, 2025, 11:33 AM
LS1 GTOquote:
Originally posted by Johnny 3eagles:
First delivery to Minneapolis for Somali use. Gun mounts optional?
I was thinking Iraqis but then again, I’ve never been to Somalia
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December 04, 2025, 11:37 AM
mark60It's got my attention.
December 04, 2025, 11:41 AM
Jupiterquote:
Originally posted by Prefontaine:
Knowing Toyota extremely well, do NOT count on this $20k nonsense.
I couldn't agree more.
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December 04, 2025, 11:42 AM
corsairquote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
if true its a great move to increase their market share for people that can't afford the Tacoma or Tundra line of pickups
Entry price-point aside, the US truck market in-general is so invested in creating various 'Cowboy Cadillac's' or, overly furnished trophy-trucks rather than offering utilitarian models that would be at-home on the ranch, farm or in-the-field.
December 04, 2025, 11:46 AM
PASigOnly $20,000? Toyota?
By the time the sticker hits the window, they'll be $35,000 minimum if not more
December 04, 2025, 11:51 AM
ftttuLike to see on in an extended cab config with fold-down rear seats. I LOVE the folding bed for flatbed use.
I haven’t read the press on these, so I don’t know the scoop. Getting these to pass crash testing may completely change it. IF…it isn’t electric and is less than $30k, a possible future parking spot it may have at my house.
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December 04, 2025, 11:55 AM
pedropcolaI doubt it. If it truly doesn't have all the doodads that are currently required by regulations there is absolutely no reason it can't be cheap. Now I do agree 20k for any car nowadays seems like a bridge to far but 35k? They can do much better than that.
Of course the funny thing will be the people who clamor but a barebones truck but then want all kinds of neat expensive gadgetry. So maybe 35k isn't too far off. lol
You can get a bottom of the line pickup truck today for under 35k, I can't see a very basic Helux costing more than a truck that is under the old regs. Bottom line we won't know the pricing till we know the pricing but I think you guys are being a bit melodramatic. Also, listening to the president it sounded like the regs were dropped IF they were made in the US. Did anybody hear it that way?
December 04, 2025, 12:08 PM
PrefontaineBring on that Slate EV. I cannot wait for Slate to wreck this industry with affordable shit. Single cab, RWD, electric pickup, bare bones. Manual windows, and no options, and no ADAS. I’m expecting that Slate truck to sell in the millions. Every landscaper, lawn mowing business, every pool service business, handyman business, is going to be buying those in droves. Bezos and his company are going to print money. Our automotive market is so bloated that I don’t have the words to describe it.
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December 04, 2025, 12:08 PM
YooperSigsIs a mounted DSHK standard equipment? Or an option?
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December 04, 2025, 12:18 PM
egregore^^^ That's a Russian autocannon, right? It practically cries out for one.

A relaxation of fuel economy standards is long overdue. They are the reason we are saddled with gasoline direct injection, little engines pumped up with turbos, CVT or 8-10-speed transmissions with the top four or five gears being overdrive, stop & start, etc.
Something missing is a scale for size comparison. How does it compare with the Taco, which has grown in size until it is bigger than the first-generation Tundra? The second-generation Taco (2005-?) was, IMO, the "just-right" combination of utility (i.e., hauling and towing) and drivability, not so big as to be unwieldy. For that matter, why
have cars and trucks become increasingly larger?
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357fuzzI want!!!!!