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Originally posted by Skins2881:

Wait, I'm confused. Is this Terminator or Water World?

Damn! That there is a business opportunity for the Ahhnold.

Thirsty? Want to perform superhuman feats?

Drink TERMINATOR WATER.

Augmented with some long decay radioactive isotopes, its just the thing for rehydration.

And don't worry about the nanomachines you ingest. They make you assimilated into the TERMINATOR WATER POOL.

TERMINATOR WATER.

You'll be back.

For more.

The CGI video posted by 46and2 is labeled "Bosstown Dynamics" as compared to the real Boston Dynamics.

some more info on the OP video. (which I believe is completely real)


The robot is called Atlas. It is 5' tall and weighs 190 pounds.

Powered by batteries. Hydraulically actuated.

RGB cameras and depth sensors. All computation for control is done on 3 onboard computers.


About the OP video:

The robot was run thru this particular "Parkour" course over and over to find problems and then resolve them. The goal was to gain reliability & repeatability.

Parkour - training discipline originally based on military obstacle course training.

Boston Dynamics states the OP video robot has some preprogrammed maneuvers and commands loaded in the computers. The robot sensors, to some degree, adjust the robot functions as it it goes thru the course.

My interpretation - if you modified the course, Boston Dynamics would have to go thru the process again. So don't think the robot is maneuvering like this all on its own w/o specific programmed guidance tailored to the particular obstacle layout.

About 10 years ago I visited Boston Dynamics several times in support of a DoD project to develop PETMAN. I was on the DoD team to define what capabilities the robot needed to have. Atlas is far beyond what PETMAN could do.


My personal speculation:
If you had to stop a robot like Atlas, there are several possibilities.

You would want a round with high penetration capability.

If any of the hydraulic fluid lines were sheared, the robot would be degraded and possibly completely incapacitated.

If the RGB and distance sensors were damaged, the robot functions would be degraded.

Hitting any of the computers or the battery pack would be damaging.

One of the robot design challenges is to keep monitoring the robot motions and adjust to maintain stability (keep the robot from falling down).

So if parts of the arms or legs were damaged, the robot could have trouble maintaining that stability.

Above are my thoughts. You would have to know the robot design to really predict the result of any component being damaged.




PETMAN

General Grevious approves

Yes, the life-like robots raise some interesting concerns, but it is the little stuff (smart nano-machines) that concern me. How do you fight something that is too small to even see? They will come by the billions, and feed off your flesh for energy. You know, sort of like COVID, but 1E6 times worse.

several bandoleers of .30cal AP,
and a few M1's and 1903's to run them thru?

Yoda/ Begun...the Clone Wars have. /Yoda

Cheap drones with knives and a facial/gait recognition software are probably more of a short term threat, but I don’t they have the same appeal to the megalomaniac that an army of those robots would…

How about a smarter version of Tombstone from Battlebots ? Let one of those loose in a parking lot or store....

I agree - the human look is freakier/scarier psychologically; but we already have a lot of destructive robots built that would just need AI guidance systems installed.
I want one that will cut my grass and stack firewood. (with a self destruct button that I can keep in my pocket)

So now a .50 BMG is NOT the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever bought.

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Originally posted by architect:
Yes, the life-like robots raise some interesting concerns, but it is the little stuff (smart nano-machines) that concern me. How do you fight something that is too small to even see? They will come by the billions, and feed off your flesh for energy. You know, sort of like COVID, but 1E6 times worse.

+1
It’s the nano-tech aspect of this that is most concerning to me. I think it’s probable that some sort of “fly-on-the-wall” device has already been put to use. From industrial espionage to crowd control they would be a pretty attractive tool.

Silent

If they are anything like the robots I work around they won't be an issue for a while, but it will come. We have them doing things now we couldn't have even dreamed about 20 years ago.

Have to go to the Godzilla gun. Garrett Hammerhead 45-70 540gr +p. I've shot exactly 2 rounds of this, the first then the 2nd just to see if it would hurt as bad as the first.

What you need is a cliff or a tall building to push them off.

Maybe get a few of 'em to take that sightseeing helicopter tour over the Grand Canyon and when they're not looking, push 'em out.

Pin 'em to the ground with your heavy duty pickup, then cut their head off with a sawzall.

I'm working on it.

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Originally posted by 46and2:
The video I posted has the (pretty convincing) CGI robot added (with the gun play and hockey stick, etc).

The original video in the OP is not CGI at all.

Everything I've read points to this being real. But I've watched it about 8 times now and the background, the ramps, the HVAC, it all looks too perfect. Maybe they just have great high def cameras. But it just looks fake to me.

Apart from that there is a blooper version of this out there. I lost the link but it shows that this was not all 1 take and the robots fell multiple times.

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Originally posted by sdy:
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Above are my thoughts. You would have to know the robot design to really predict the result of any component being damaged.


https://i.postimg.cc/pXjthh1g/petman.jpg

PETMAN

So, bigger IEDs. Got it.

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everything I've read points to this being real. But I've watched it about 8 times now and the background, the ramps, the HVAC, it all looks too perfect. Maybe they just have great high def cameras. But it just looks fake to me.

Apart from that there is a blooper version of this out there. I lost the link but it shows that this was not all 1 take and the robots fell multiple times.

The blooper reel of both falling is definitely real and from actual Boston Dynamics, and pairs with the one in the OP, also from actual Boston Dynamics.

The one I posted with gunplay is ftom Bosstown Dynamics, and confirmed CGI a couple of years ago. I'll look for the source tomorrow. They did a good job, for sure. These guys have a second video in a hallway or something in the thumbnail, IIRC, also from Bosstown Dynamics, to be cheeky.

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Originally posted by frayedends:

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Originally posted by 46and2:
The video I posted has the (pretty convincing) CGI robot added (with the gun play and hockey stick, etc).

The original video in the OP is not CGI at all.

Everything I've read points to this being real. But I've watched it about 8 times now and the background, the ramps, the HVAC, it all looks too perfect. Maybe they just have great high def cameras. But it just looks fake to me.

Apart from that there is a blooper version of this out there. I lost the link but it shows that this was not all 1 take and the robots fell multiple times.

Gravity is still not quite right. Watch the legs. They don't move downward quickly enough and they don't behave like real objects fall. Gravity and acceleration is where CGI still can't fool the human eye.

Boston Dynamics ran the same scenario in the video over and over. Every time there was a failure, they made a "fix".

I think they said there was an 80% chance of getting thru that whole set of movements.

As I remember from 10 years ago, this was a standard way they worked. When they found a particular way the robot moved that caused a problem, they made an adjustment. I think the adjustment was usually in the control software.

Sometimes in software development, that is a standard technique. Test a little, fix, test a little, fix and so on

Have they learned to descend stairs yet?

Okay so I'm wrong, and it's real. The lab just looks fake, must be the high definition and cleanliness of the place.

Anyhow, some more from them...

Large commercial magnet will do the trick...