And it's supposedly much, much closer to us. This hasn't received very much press however. Probably because nothing's been verified.

Regardless, exciting times for those in the astronomy business!

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Planet 10? Another Earth-size world may lurk in the outer solar system
By Hanneke Weitering Staff Writer-Producer
Published June 23, 2017

A planetary-mass object the size of Mars may be lurking in the outer solar system.

A planetary-mass object the size of Mars may be lurking in the outer solar system. (Heather Roper/LPL)

A planet-size object may be orbiting the sun in the icy reaches of the solar system beyond Pluto.

Scientists at the University of Arizona's Lunar and Planetary Laboratory (LPL) have determined that an unseen object with a mass somewhere between that of Earth and Mars could be lurking in the Kuiper Belt , a region beyond Neptune filled with thousands of icy asteroids, comets and dwarf planets.

In January 2016 , a separate group of scientists predicted the existence of a Neptune-size planet orbiting the sun far, far beyond Pluto — about 25 times farther from the sun than Pluto is. This hypothetical planet was dubbed "Planet Nine," so if both predictions are correct, one of these putative objects could be the solar system's 10th planet.

The so-called "planetary-mass object" described by the scientists from LPL appears to affect the orbits of a population of icy space rocks in the Kuiper Belt. Distant Kuiper Belt objects (KBOs) have tilted orbits around the sun. The tilted orbital planes of most KBOs average out to something called the invariable plane of the solar system.
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But the orbits of the most distant KBOs tilt away from the invariable plane by an average of 8 degrees, which signals the presence of a more massive object that warps its surroundings with its gravitational field, researchers said in a study due to be published in The Astronomical Journal.

"The most likely explanation for our results is that there is some unseen mass," Kat Volk, a postdoctoral fellow at LPL and the lead author of the study, said in a statement . "According to our calculations, something as massive as Mars would be needed to cause the warp that we measured."

These KBOs act a lot like spinning tops, Renu Malhotra, a professor of planetary sciences at LPL and co-author of the new study, said in the statement.

"Imagine you have lots and lots of fast-spinning tops, and you give each one a slight nudge … If you then take a snapshot of them, you will find that their spin axes will be at different orientations, but on average, they will be pointing to the local gravitational field of Earth," she said. "We expect each of the KBOs' orbital tilt angle to be at a different orientation, but on average, they will be pointing perpendicular to the plane determined by the sun and the big planets."

It may sound a lot like the mysterious Planet Nine , but the researchers say the so-called planetary-mass object is too small, and too close, to be the same thing. Planet Nine lies 500 to 700 astronomical units (AU) from Earth, and its mass is about 10 times that of Earth. (One AU is the average distance at which Earth orbits the sun — 93 million miles, or 150 million kilometers. Pluto orbits the sun at a maximum distance of just less than 50 AU.)

"That is too far away to influence these KBOs," Volk said. "It certainly has to be much closer than 100 AU to substantially affect the KBOs in that range."

Though no planet-size objects have been spotted in the Kuiper Belt so far, the researchers are optimistic that the Large Synoptic Survey Telescope (LSST), which is currently under construction in Chile, will help find these hidden worlds. "We expect LSST to bring the number of observed KBOs from currently about 2,000 to 40,000," Malhotra said.

"There are a lot more KBOs out there — we just have not seen them yet," Malhotra added. "Some of them are too far and dim even for LSST to spot, but because the telescope will cover the sky much more comprehensively than current surveys, it should be able to detect this object, if it's out there."

Horse shit

Someone's in need of a new government grant, I take it?

How do we see celestial bodies at vastly greater distances and not see this relatively close planet?

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Horse shit

Someone's in need of a new government grant, I take it?

This! NASA does it, climatologists do it, etc. I'm beginning to think the science community theorizes a bunch of crap, sells it as fact for popularity, and or funding. The scientific method is gone. (Neal DeGrasse Tyson).

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Horse shit

Someone's in need of a new government grant, I take it?

This! NASA does it, climatologists do it, etc. I'm beginning to think the science community theorizes a bunch of crap, sells it as fact for popularity, and or funding. The scientific method is gone. (Neal DeGrasse Tyson).

Link to original video: https://youtu.be/345uegSj-zQ

WE CAN'T SEE IT BUT IT'S THERE!! NOW GIVE US MONEY TO FIND IT PERMANENT-LIKE!!!

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How do we see celestial bodies at vastly greater distances and not see this relatively close planet?

...looking through this dirty window, this crud-covered screen, all of these trees, with all of these leaves on them, and I don't know how many bushes.

Seven bushes.

Oh, and I just love this latest trend of "Scientists have discovered an Earth-like world in a distant galaxy."

Holy cow. No, no, no. Look into the details of how they're claiming fo find these celestial bodies that they cannot even see.

God, it's intelligence-insulting. Just come out and say "We want the government to give us money so that we don't have to get real jobs and serve an actual purpose in this life."
Come on, just say that. Be honest, at least, huh? Stop acting as if you think all non-scientists are stupid children who will believe anything you tell them.

Link to original video: https://youtu.be/4394VCS7POE

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Oh, and I just love this latest trend of "Scientists have discovered an Earth-like world in a distant galaxy."

Holy cow. No, no, no. Look into the details of how they're claiming fo find these celestial bodies that they cannot even see.

God, it's intelligence-insulting. Just come out and say "We want the government to give us money so that we don't have to get real jobs and serve an actual purpose in this life."
Come on, just say that. Be honest, at least, huh? Stop acting as if you think all non-scientists are stupid children who will believe anything you tell them.

Breaking news!

They've even got an expert and wonderful pictures...

...need to say more?




Link to original video: https://youtu.be/5djpUM__Iy8

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Originally posted by egregore:
How do we see celestial bodies at vastly greater distances and not see this relatively close planet?

We don't "see" those distant planets--what we see is a temporary dropping of the light from the star and from that size of the difference in illumination and the timing can calculate the size and mass of the planet. Also, from analysis of the light making its way through the planetary atmosphere it is possible to determine what that atmosphere consists of. In the case of the possible planets in the Kuiper Belt and beyond, there is no star being occluded to make possible those determinations.

flashguy

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Horse shit

Someone's in need of a new government grant, I take it?

The primary goal of gov't funded research is to create the need for a follow-on contract.

If we cant see it, but its there, perhaps its in the realm of a worm hole or similar. Maybe that's how the aliens travel to our galaxy.

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Scientists at the University of Arizona's Lunar and Planetary Laboratory (LPL) have determined that an unseen object with a mass somewhere between that of Earth and Mars could be lurking in the Kuiper Belt, a region beyond Neptune filled with thousands of icy asteroids, comets and dwarf planets.

Well then, there's bound to be a whole lot of Earth/Mars size bodies in the Kuiper Belt. LOTS of grants to be had for studying them.

Let me know when they find Planet X....NIBIRU!

Until then I'm still pissed about Pluto..."Pluto, you're my boy!"

....why, you've never heard of "Commander Cody and the Lost Planet Airmen"? Even Hoyt Axton wrote songs for 'em....