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The Unmanned Writer
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Been attending and watching a few MLB games this year and noticing announcers ask the crowd to remove their hats for "God Bless America" (occurs middle of the 7th before "Take Me Out to the Ballpark").

Beginning of the game, the same is asked for the National Anthem but since when do we treat other songs that way?

(As an FYSA, I do stand quietly and respectfully for the song but, it is not the National Anthem)






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Been attending and watching a few MLB games this year and noticing announcers ask the crowd to remove their hats for "God Bless America" (occurs middle of the 7th before "Take Me Out to the Ballpark").

Beginning of the game, the same is asked for the National Anthem but since when do we treat other songs that way?

(As an FYSA, I do stand quietly and respectfully for the song but, it is not the National Anthem)


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^^^ No.

Too many years in the Navy but I know the difference between the National Anthem and a (or the best?) other patriotic songs.

National Anthem - stand a face the flag. Men remove their hats, women do not. If in [military] uniform, do not remove hat, salute instead except when in ranks.

Standing quietly and respectfully for a patriotic song, totally understood and adhered to.

Now, maybe sheer ignorance on my part so, hence the question... since when (and why) do we treat a song other than the Star Spangled Banner" as though it is our National Anthem?






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No, it is not.

Being respectful is not too much to request, and no one should be shamed for not standing, removing head cover or otherwise. It is not the same as disrespecting. (nor is doing so, diminishing the National Anthem.)


It could be argued that it is a hymn/prayer, and deserving of respect.


Now, those getting all twisted over people because they stand, remove a hat or placing a hand on their chest, that's simply moral grandstanding.




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Why not? It doesn't diminish the national anthem in any way.




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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:


Now, maybe sheer ignorance on my part so, hence the question... since when (and why) do we treat a song other than the Star Spangled Banner" as though it is our National Anthem?


Perhaps, but what is the problem with treating another song with "respect"? Confused

Can't see that it diminishes the song (as others have indicated).

Failing to see your logic.
 
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National Anthem - stand a face the flag. Men remove their hats, women do not. If in [military] uniform, do not remove hat, salute instead except when in ranks.


You left out that Veterans can stand and salute providing they are wearing a hat.
 
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National Anthem - stand a face the flag. Men remove their hats, women do not. If in [military] uniform, do not remove hat, salute instead except when in ranks.


You left out that Veterans can stand and salute providing they are wearing a hat.


Left it out on purpose, many who never served are not aware.






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Another thing that seems to be more common, instead of "rise, and remove your hats..." it's "rise, as you are able, and remove your hats...." I get that it is a virtue signal to the disabled, but does it not have the reverse effect of calling attention to an individual's disability? I am of an age where getting to my feet requires some care and effort, but for the Anthem? You better believe I'm standing up!
 
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^^^ No.

Too many years in the Navy but I know the difference between the National Anthem and a (or the best?) other patriotic songs.

National Anthem - stand a face the flag. Men remove their hats, women do not. If in [military] uniform, do not remove hat, salute instead except when in ranks.

Standing quietly and respectfully for a patriotic song, totally understood and adhered to.

Now, maybe sheer ignorance on my part so, hence the question... since when (and why) do we treat a song other than the Star Spangled Banner" as though it is our National Anthem?


Have not read any other answers. It seems to me that there is a purpose in asking God to bless America, especially in these times. I see nothing wrong with it. And, if I was there, I would sing along, as bad as my singing voice is.


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I stand and offer proper respect (hand orver heart or salute) to the National Anthem. I cry during "God Bless America"--result of having heard it for years sung by Kate Smith, during and after WWII.

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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
National Anthem - stand a face the flag. Men remove their hats, women do not. If in [military] uniform, do not remove hat, salute instead except when in ranks.


You left out that Veterans can stand and salute providing they are wearing a hat.


Veterans don't need to wear a hat to salute. In the monthly VFW meetings, they salute the flag a couple of times and people do it with or without covers. They are a stickler for formality so I would imagine if it was a requirement, they would say so.



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Another thing that seems to be more common, instead of "rise, and remove your hats..." it's "rise, as you are able, and remove your hats...." I get that it is a virtue signal to the disabled, but does it not have the reverse effect of calling attention to an individual's disability? I am of an age where getting to my feet requires some care and effort, but for the Anthem? You better believe I'm standing up!


You don't have to be disabled not to be able to stand for the flag. You can be just old with bad knees. I'd give old people that leeway. Someday, I'd expect that privilege.



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I believe God Bless America started being played at the 7th inning stretch after 9/11. It's to further honor America so they ask the same respect be paid as with the anthem. Somebody probably figured they should treat it like the anthem lest they step in the hornets nest of improperly running patriotic displays at ball games.
 
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Why not? It doesn't diminish the national anthem in any way.


When every song is special, no song is.....


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So call it the National Hymn.

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It's 'Take Me Out to The Ball Game.'



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Now, those getting all twisted over people because they stand, remove a hat or placing a hand on their chest, that's simply moral grandstanding.


Agreed.
I like what the great late George Carlin said about all the flag waving, rah rah shit.
"It's a symbol. And I leave symbols to the symbol-minded"
 
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It's 'Take Me Out to The Ball Game.'


Not in San Diego.

I double listened today. Both announcer and piped in lyrics were "ballpark" (and yes, i know you are correct Wink).






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I salute the Anthem when wearing cover. America the Beautiful is a nice song.


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