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August 04, 2021, 08:43 PM
MikeGLI
Any PVC experts out there?
Suppose’n I wanted to use 4” schedule 40 PVC as a stand, meaning I’d cut it in to a 4” section and stood it upright, how much weight would it support? Can it hold 400lbs?

What about schedule 80 pvc?




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August 04, 2021, 09:14 PM
Oz_Shadow
Look up pvc jet ski stands. Most you see are supporting in similar weight and that is lengthwise.
August 04, 2021, 09:25 PM
Seamus
I'm not an expert, but I believe the tensile strength on 4" schedule 40 is over 4000lbs. I'm not sure how that relates to compressive strength, but I'd bet 400lbs is no big deal.


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August 04, 2021, 10:31 PM
MikeinNC
You mean like a deer stand? 10 feet or so above ground? Sch40 will get what you want, but I don’t know that I’d feel all warm and fuzzy about it….plus unless you paint it UV is a pvc killer….




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August 05, 2021, 06:39 AM
smlsig
Just like sizing a post for a deck it depends on the height.
I’d assume that if you’re talking about 2 or 3 feet probably but if you’re talking about 15 or 20’ not so much…


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August 05, 2021, 07:40 AM
trapper189
It'll support a lot more weight if you pour it full of concrete. Makes a great post for the mailbox.
August 05, 2021, 07:47 AM
JasonATI
I used 3" pvc, 3 pieces about 3" long under the water heater so it didn't sit directly on the concrete floor.
A 50 gallon water heater full of water has to be around that weight.
August 05, 2021, 07:48 AM
MikeGLI
In this instance, it would be 4" tall, 4" diameter, supporting +/- 400lbs, I cannot fill it with concrete. It would be interior, so I'm assuming UV degradation isnt a problem.




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August 05, 2021, 08:03 AM
snidera
quote:
Originally posted by MikeGLI:
In this instance, it would be 4" tall, 4" diameter, supporting +/- 400lbs, I cannot fill it with concrete. It would be interior, so I'm assuming UV degradation isnt a problem.


4" will not be any sort of problem. You could use much smaller dia & not have an issue, the vertical load bearing isn't even worth looking up.
The only issue I could possibly see is how you are supporting/balancing whatever load you have - I'd bet it's bigger than 4" dia, so balance & attachment will come in to play. 4" is not a big deal no matter what, but PVC doesn't have great lateral strength - it will bend & then fail if the load isn't balanced.
August 05, 2021, 10:09 AM
joel9507
Strength of materials is one thing. Whether it will work in a particular design is another. Whether a structure will support a given weight depends on the details (geometry, e.g.)

In other words, just knowing XYZ material is being used will not tell you whether a given structure will fail. You could build a bridge using wood and have it stand, or a bridge out of steel and see it collapse.

Some things are strong in compression and fail quickly under tension. I think PVC pipe probably fits into that category - a long stretch of unsupported PVC pipe would not be hard to crack with sufficient load in the center of the unsupported span.

In other words....need more details. Wink

A sketch, maybe?
August 05, 2021, 11:33 AM
MikeGLI
I dont have a sketch. Assume a totem pole, varying in height from 5' - 7'. This PVC will operate as the base for the totem poles, or a spacer if you will. PVC sits on floor and totem poles on PVC. Max weight is around 400lbs.

I suppose the alternative is steel.




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August 06, 2021, 07:40 AM
rsbolo
That should be no problem. Hockey pucks might do the trick as well.


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August 06, 2021, 08:30 AM
MikeGLI
quote:
Originally posted by rsbolo:
That should be no problem. Hockey pucks might do the trick as well.


I need the material to be hollow as it's overlaying a 3" steel pipe.




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August 06, 2021, 11:22 AM
mrw
From strength and materials classes many moons ago:

Cross sectional area of schedule 40 PVC pipe = 3.12 in2.

Compressive strength PVC = about 8000 psi

8000 psi/3.12 in2 = 2564 pounds to compression failure. 400 pounds good to go.


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