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I don't know anything about music. I listen to it (various genre) but don't know anything about it - how to really appreciate it. I like jazz (now) but don't really know what specifically to enjoy about it; I'm just now learning to appreciate baroque (my first genre). In the beginning, jazz just seemed like noise and random notes - my impressions of Thelonious Monk and the like. But hearing them play covers, you realize the musician talent they possess. So the seemingly random music they make may not be so random after all - there is intent and purpose behind the notes despite the seeming random nature (although it's lost on me for now; I'll get to learning how to appreciate jazz after baroque, classical and romantic periods). But I was wondering: while probably unproven and just wife's tales, I can see how one might think listening to classical (ie - Mozart) as a baby onward may lead to increased mental abilities; especially if one takes up learning an instrument. The brain patterns that must form in listening to those great works of art. But what about jazz? If one listened to jazz from infancy onwards, what might one expect in terms of mental growth? Would the genius behind those random notes yield positive mental aptitudes? Or take the mind in a different direction? "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | ||
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Great question. My guess as someone who made money with music for several years* is that listening to jazz would not create different neural pathways, and that someone who was not exposed to baroque, classical and romantic composers first would not understand it well, or at all. * I.e., my opinion is just slightly better than that of the fully uninitiated person. Take it for what it’s worth. | |||
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I think playing Jazz is the mind expanding experience, more so than just listening to it.   | |||
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I didn’t hear popular music until I was about 12 years old. My father listened to his music which was primarily jazz and classical. No television either. Go figure … I rebelled and bought an electric guitar, many times. Sometimes there’s just no substitute for rock ‘n’ roll power chords w rich harmonic overtones in distortion. Soaring, beefy arena leads.  But there will always be a place in my heart for the music of my childhood. It’s some of the most meaningful music in my life. There are some albums where I know every single note. Parents brainwashed me. For instance Gustaf Holst, The Planets is one of those pieces. I can’t tell you whether this is unusual or not. I have a son who hears lyrics for the first time and they’re memorized forever. I never hear lyrics otoh. He’s a drummer and does the polyrhythm thing pretty easily. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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FWIW, I took guitar lessons for many years from a classically trained guitarist. He taught whatever I wanted to learn however and was a great teacher. But he would often refer back to his college days and talk about the "jazzers" and how he felt they were more technical than the classical players. Albeit, kind of apples and oranges. SIGforum: For all your needs! Imagine our influence if every gun owner in America was an NRA member! Click the box>>>  | |||
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Yeah, but not if they listen to Confusion Jazz... "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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As a once part-time musician I can't *listen* to jazz. Don't get me wrong I know what's good & what I like. It's that I can't relax & just listen. I'm always analyzing what I'm hearing & can't just enjoy it. Everything from Django Reinhardt & Stephane Grappelli, to Parker & Coltrane, through to fusion guys of the last thirty years. Classical I can listen to without such burdens. Sorry to drift. Not really an answer to your question, I just wanted to throw that out there. "We're all travelers in this world. From the sweet grass to the packing house. Birth 'til death. We travel between the eternities." | |||
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When you listen to something like T.Monk or Miles Davis or Coltrane, does it make sense to you? Is it genius? Or random noise over layed on top of a melody? The random notes I found out is called achromatic notes (I think). Not sure what to make of it.... "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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That's the problem. I'm always analyzing what's being played. Trying to decipher how the solo lines fit over the chords. Some of it I get, some of it, not so much. But I can't just listen for enjoyment. It makes me think too hard. "We're all travelers in this world. From the sweet grass to the packing house. Birth 'til death. We travel between the eternities." | |||
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This is a tune called “so what” by miles Davis. You can hear that lyric in the 2 note melody. Jazz plays with the melody w improvisation. Y’all just might be thinking a little bit too hard about this… "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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| Imagination and focus become reality |
I like Jazz, I like Classical even more, and of course I play neither any more, just good ole Rock&Roll. I listen to Classical music every single day, mostly Classical guitar. I can't recall exactly the study, but experts had determined that some Classical music, Mozart for one, made brain waves more coherent, more focused than other music. If I recall, Death Metal did the opposite. It scrambled your brain waves. I don't think jazz is as beneficial for you though I enjoy it nevertheless. | |||
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I like Miles Davis. I would have had an chance to see him in December of 1965 at the Plugged Nickel in Chicago. Unfortunately something came up and I couldn't go. My friends told me he never showed up that night. I guess erratic behavior was not unusual for him. My favorite album is "Kind of Blue". | |||
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I think I've told this story before, but I saw Miles on the Boston Common around 1982. Oddly, he was the opening act for Pat Metheny. SIGforum: For all your needs! Imagine our influence if every gun owner in America was an NRA member! Click the box>>> | |||
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Miles Davis was also in an episode of Miami Vice. | |||
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I don't think there is actual good science that listening to music increases cognitive ability directly. There is certainly pop-science speculation that is true, but no good solid science that it is. There is some correlation between music and smarts, but nothing I know of that shows a direct linkage. Some theorize that it helps relaxation and therefore makes learning easier. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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| Live long and prosper  |
Music is one of the greatest pleasures in my life. Back in my twenties i was into pop and rock and thought jazz was nonsensical noise but i was willing to educate myself. Didn’t particularly like piano either. One day, mid 80’s, i rented a bunch of Oscar Peterson CDs and decided i will learn to understand and like it. I did. It was just the beginning and have never been able or willing to stop. Back in the 80’s i was a musical explorer. Used to go to a punk disco to listen to their music and try to enjoy it too. Over the hears, jazz and piano have taken over my music collection. Don’t listen to current rock anymore but my interests and tastes in jazz keep expanding. Jazz recordings from before i was born sound as if they were recorded yesterday, amazing. It is almost certainly mind expanding 0-0 "OP is a troll" - Flashlightboy, 12/18/20 | |||
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Our kids were mostly in schools in California, where there are lots of Asians of different ethnicities. Our impression was that Asian families give their children classical music lessons--usually piano or violin--perhaps mostly to teach them the discipline of rigorous study. _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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I like Smoothe Jazz. Minimum to no vocal. Same for blues. SIGnature NRA Benefactor CMP Pistol Distinguished | |||
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BlueTrane John Coltrane — tenor saxophone Lee Morgan — trumpet Curtis Fuller — trombone Kenny Drew — piano Paul Chambers — bass Philly Joe Jones — drums Listen to Jazz every day, especially during workouts. One day I listened to this all day when I was in and out of the car. Cheers. Neat Jazz photo site. Rare Jazz Photos Don't. drink & drive, don't even putt. | |||
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