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Mired in the Fog of Lucidity |
The socialists appear to be gaining momentum, and as the ignorant younger voters begin to become more politically active it will only get worse. The push to take over the Democrat party is in full swing. Be vigilant and keep your powder dry, as they say. A couple of quotes from the article: "Anything short of putting the government in charge of virtually every aspect of society is now considered “too moderate” for their party." "As Ocasio-Cortez recently said, “Democrats can be too big of a tent.” Or, put another way, moderates are no longer welcome in the Democratic Party. It belongs to Karl Marx now." The full article: Media darling Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her fellow “squad” members have never been shy about their plan to shove the Democratic Party toward adopting socialist principles. And now that we’re more than a year and a half into the AOC era, it’s clear that their two-part plan is working. The first component of their plan is to reshape the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) into a powerful political force in Congress. Historically, the caucus, which began in the 1990s, has been primarily a club for left-wing congressional Democrats. But it had little political power because of its members’ unwillingness to vote as a bloc. AOC, Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., and other radical Democrats have been working to reform the CPC so that the socialist left has the ability to control — or, at the very least, heavily influence — the agenda for the entire party. Although the CPC hasn’t totally adopted this approach, socialists have in recent months made significant progress toward achieving their goal. The caucus was initially one of the primary drivers of the effort to impeach President Trump, and their demands for a government takeover of health care, increasing the federal minimum wage to $15, and the creation of a radical “Green New Deal” all made significant progress in 2019, laying the groundwork for 2021, when CPC members hope to have friendlier forces controlling the White House and Senate. But perhaps the biggest victory for the CPC came in December when it won a widely publicized battle with House leadership over the details of drug-pricing legislation. The bill, titled the Elijah Cummings Lower Drug Costs Now Act, would allow Medicare to “negotiate” drug prices directly with pharmaceutical companies for a set number of drugs. Of course, it wouldn’t be much of a “negotiation.” The White House Council of Economic Advisers noted that those who fail to meet the pricing standards set by the federal government would “face an excise tax of up to 95 percent of sales.” The CPC supported the legislation’s framework, but it demanded that Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House leadership expand the number of drugs covered by the legislation from 35 to 50, along with several other fairly sizeable changes. Pelosi initially refused, but once the CPC threatened to vote against the bill, House leadership was forced to cave and the concessions were made. After winning the battle with Pelosi, Rep. Pramila Jayapal, a socialist and CPC co-leader, said on Twitter, “This is a huge victory for the American people! When we stick together, fight hard and with principle, we help improve lives for millions of people.” “Sticking together” is exactly what Ocasio-Cortez and her allies have been demanding of the caucus from the moment they arrived in Washington, and it’s looking like their efforts have paid off. The second part of AOC and her allies’ plan to reshape the Democratic Party is to push out of positions of power and influence those who don’t agree with their socialist platform. In an interview earlier in January with New York Magazine, Ocasio-Cortez said that despite the gains made within the CPC, it still has far too many moderate members. According to the New York Magazine profile, “She [Ocasio-Cortez] said the Congressional Progressive Caucus should start kicking people out if they stray too far from the party line. Other caucuses within the Democratic Party in Congress require applications, Ocasio-Cortez pointed out. But ‘they let anybody who the cat dragged in call themselves a progressive. There’s no standard,’ she said.” Later in the interview, when asked about the possibility of Joe Biden becoming president, AOC “groaned” and then said, “In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the same party, but in America, we are.” Ocasio-Cortez isn’t just passively complaining about the alleged “moderates” in the party, either. In September, AOC endorsed socialist congressional candidate Marie Newman, who is attempting to unseat an incumbent Democrat in Illinois. In October, AOC endorsed Jessica Cisneros, a challenger to Henry Cuellar, D-Texas, yet another sitting Democratic member of Congress. Further, despite the fact Ocasio-Cortez has raised more money than any other Democratic member of the House, she has refused to give any of her vast treasure trove of resources to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, choosing instead to independently help socialists and progressives that more closely align with her vision for the party. And that’s just the beginning. The AOC-backed group Justice Democrats is working with numerous other candidates across the country to unseat even more moderate Democratic members of Congress. The Democratic Party has been under the control of the left for more than a decade, but the present shift is even more extreme than many anticipated was possible at the end of the Obama era. Instead of preaching “tolerance,” AOC and her friends are demanding strict adherence to their brand of socialism. Anything short of putting the government in charge of virtually every aspect of society is now considered “too moderate” for their party. There is simply no room left in the Democratic Party for anyone who believes in anything approaching responsible government spending practices or limiting the power of the ruling administrative state in Washington — even if that limitation is slight. Only those who agree to walk in lockstep with Ocasio-Cortez and the other de facto leaders of the party will be tolerated. As Ocasio-Cortez recently said, “Democrats can be too big of a tent.” Or, put another way, moderates are no longer welcome in the Democratic Party. It belongs to Karl Marx now. https://www.foxnews.com/opinio...working-no-moderates | ||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
Indeed - and yet, historically, when the Dems managed to get more votes it's been because they drew from a wider pool than the Republicans did. When they've been able to deny the Republicans legislative wins it's because politicians who see themselves as being in the middle thought the Republican position was too "extreme". How many victories is AOC planning to cede to us in the course of "purifying" the Dem party? Is she hoping to drive the party so far into irrelevance that the only people who bother to call themselves Democrats will be extremists just like her? I suppose that'll give her her own little cadre, but I'm not sure it'll ever give her the votes to take over. Perhaps more importantly, what will the rest of the Donkeys do after the 2020 election? It seems pretty clear that the Dem establishment considers the Dem voter base to be wildly outnumbered and is therefore tolerating clowns like AOC in the hopes of bringing as many voters (especially young voters) into their tent as possible - and, somehow, keeping them there over time. It also seems clear that some Dems have their heads in the sand in the sense that they think the whole "assholes, occupiers and commies" thing will blow over once they've been discredited by losses and failures in this coming November. (It won't. This has been building since at least the '90s.) So when and under what circumstances does the rest of the Dem party, particularly all those old incumbents who expect to be in office well into their 80's, strike back? | |||
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Big Stack |
I consider this something of a good thing. They'll push the Democratic party further left, and a lot of centerist Democrats will abandon the party. | |||
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Exactly so. My question is who is really behind these morons. | |||
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Do the next right thing |
To me, the question is this: Will the leftward shift of the democrat party happen faster or slower than the leftward shift of the electorate? If they move the party slow enough, we might be looking at a left/right division closer to what Europe has, where "center-right" means "GDC, just not militantly so". | |||
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I don't care who or how many here disagree with me, but AOC is a moron. A barely literate POS with a huge mouth and an empty head. 'She' is not going to accomplish anything, other than to sow pain and suffering for all around her. The Dem party is damaged goods at this point and circling the drain, so I guess a moron like AOC could comtribute to that decline, but I think it more likely the likes of Pelosi, Schumer, and a handful of other Dem's are likely to do more to kill the Dem party once and for all. Then AOC and Omar can go create their own totally irrelevant party for like minded nitwits. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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The 2nd guarantees the 1st |
One of the upsides could be a split into two different parties altogether and we'd have them running against each other as well as the republican candidates in the next elections. "Even if the world were perfect it wouldn't be." ... Yogi Berra | |||
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AOC has littel to do with all this. She is the definition of a puppet. Her puppetmaster is her recently "departed" chief of staff, Saikat Chakabarti. He's the one calling the shots, training AOC with talking points, picking other Dems to primary. I don't know why some ambitious young journalist hasn't decided to do a story on this. It's already all over Youtube, but the MSM won't touch it. | |||
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The question is -"is mainstream America paying attention". Too many get and accept at face value the MSM. Add to the whole dumbing down the population that is the public schhool and college system. | |||
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If we were lived under the Parliamentary system, Team Sanders would've broken with the party and taken all the far-lefties with him. I can see the AOC/Sanders-types getting confrontational with the blue-dog Dems at the DNC, they'll lash-out and it'll be the end of the donkeys. One of them will leave enmasse, as they can't stand one another. A repeat of the freak show '68 &'72 DNC is a distinct possiblity. | |||
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Void Where Prohibited |
I agree. AOC is too stupid to take over anything. "If Gun Control worked, Chicago would look like Mayberry, not Thunderdome" - Cam Edwards | |||
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I abandoned the D party over 40 years ago. | |||
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I don't see AOC as the problem. I see her as a symptom. I watched Rambo: Last Blood last night. SPOILER ALERT - skip to next paragraph if you haven't seen it. Story line is simple good vs. bad. John Rambo raised his niece because her father was a bad guy. He protected her, because he has seen the evil that is in some men's hearts. She, of course, has to go and find her father in Mexico, gets kidnapped into prostitution, and the plot goes from there. But the root cause - Rambo protected his niece, sheltered her, from bad, and she couldn't comprehend the consequences. I think we've done that to our kids, since maybe WW2. Boomers wanted their kids to have it better than they did, boomers didn't want their kids to have to "suffer", so the current generation of snowflakes has no idea how the world really works. they are filled with false idealism, and just know they can do better. And, they are soft. This isn't universally true of course. I see hard-working, conservative millennials every day. Some of you here have kids or grandkids that don't see rainbows everywhere and don't run on unicorn farts. But there are a lot of kids, it seems increasingly, who don't have a clue. And this is what AOC, Bernie and others are able to tap into. Of course, I could be an old curmudgeon with a permanent attitude of "kids these days", so take this with a grain of salt. Thus the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the nine-millimeter bullet. - Dave Barry "Never go through life saying 'I should have'..." - quote from the 9/11 Boatlift Story (thanks, sdy for posting it) | |||
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Cogito Ergo Sum |
Don’t underestimate AOC and her ilk. Yes, she is not sharing money raised with the Demo bigwigs. They are using it to back progressive candidates at the local and state levels. They know what happens when state governments go blue. So do we. Even Beto is now working on progressive candidates at the grassroots level. That’s where their energy is going cause they can see the effect it has. She is dangerous, very dangerous. She may be a moron but she is a crafty one. | |||
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It really is a scary time right now with people like this at the helm. More and more people are thinking like her and the media seems to portray it as a good thing.This message has been edited. Last edited by: patw, | |||
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I've noticed this as well. Younger Americans have no idea what they have here - they seem so willing to throw it all away. V. | |||
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Hopefully this. The Brits got a taste of what leftwing socialist nut job Jeremy Corbyn proposed ("The party was also unable to win over new supporters. Its manifesto, which promises to provide free broadband service, to institute a four-day workweek, and abolish college tuition fees...") and Brexiters (England's "deplorable" apparently) were consistently called racist and stupid by Labor party supporters and they didn't like that and voted in the biggest Conservative victory since Margaret Thatcher. https://slate.com/news-and-pol...yn-labour-party.html
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They're willing to throw it away because they've been told by their equally activist oriented parents & professors that 'radicalism' is a good/positive quality. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater is seen as the best solution to EVERYTHING, as EVERYTHING needs realignment: Take down the patriarchy. Change is good is their mantra; while change and evolution are always a constant, what they push for however is revolution, in every aspect of it's definition. Anybody that's studied or, kept aware of history, revolutions are never clean and never without tragedy. | |||
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This. Push too far, and you'll push it off the cliff. That's where it belongs. You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of great violence, you're not peaceful, you're harmless. NRA Benefactor/Patriot Member | |||
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