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I've got an appx 15' Evergreen tree in my front lawn that all of a sudden has lost just about all of the needles in the top 1/3 of the tree, with some brown needles through the rest of the tree.

I've done some research but everything just mentions browning of needles, not the complete loss of them.





 
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Check the affected needle with magnification and see if there are any black spheres. There are a couple of diseases that affect certain spruce trees up your way.




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There are a few other trees the same as this one that are starting to exhibit the same thing. I'm wondering if I should cut them down and burn them before it spreads to the acre of evergreens surrounding the property.




 
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A local tree nursery should have the answer. If not the County Agricultural Agent or the Horticulture Department of your local university.

You can always look at images online, but a call to these folks is a first step. Let us know.
 
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there's some kinda thing that killed a lot of fir trees in western NC a few years ago...

contact your local ag agent...



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I think that is pine needle disease, if I remember right. Once a pine tree gets it will (sounds as though that has already occurred) infect pine trees for miles around, the only thing that can be done is to cut down the tree, there is no cure. We've had that same problem around here.


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Do you have a close-up picture? It could be bagworm damage.
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Check here --> UMass Extension - Common Diseases of Woody Ornamentals in Massachusetts

And here --> https://ag.umass.edu/landscape...osphaera-needle-cast


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That's a spruce by the looks of it. Could be a fir but probably not. In my professional opinion, that tree is not long for the world. It could be a neadle cast disease but it could also be easily effected if normal groundwater drainage has been effected in any way. Is there a new driveway or some new drainage ditch or something like that?
 
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A local tree nursery should have the answer. If not the County Agricultural Agent or the Horticulture Department of your local university.

You can always look at images online, but a call to these folks is a first step. Let us know.


This. Contact your local University cooperative extension agent this is free but not necessarily quick. An arborist is your next bet.
 
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In my professional opinion, that tree is not long for the world.

I'm not a professional arborist... but I agree.
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That's a spruce by the looks of it. Could be a fir but probably not. In my professional opinion, that tree is not long for the world. It could be a neadle cast disease but it could also be easily effected if normal groundwater drainage has been effected in any way. Is there a new driveway or some new drainage ditch or something like that?


New driveway as of a year ago, although it sits about 2' above the base of the tree and is about 4' away from it. The new driveway is also better engineered than the old one.

It just downpoured for awhile here so I wasn't able to get out and inspect it any closer. I'll check it tomorrow though.




 
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damn it Jim , I am a delivery driver, not an arborist!



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Here are a couple more photos. I'm thinking it was caused by the large amount of gypsy moths that we have had this year.







 
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Not an arborist, but it looks like new buds on those bare branches?

Sounds like you damaged the root system when installing the new driveway, the tree maybe had to regroup and die back so the remaining root system could maintain it. Looks like it's bouncing back, though (I hope).


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I couldn't tell from the earlier photos, but that sure looks like some type of fir tree to me due to both the appearance of the needles and the buds.

I would "guess agree" with the previous post that the tree was somehow damaged and is trying to regenerate.
 
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A tree needs water in 360 degrees. If the driveway is over the root zone, that side of the tree could get die back due to the lack of water.

You could trim out some of the branches so the root zone does not have to support so many branches.

We need a picture showing the driveway in relation to the tree.


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