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So this is what I have kind of narrowed it down to: 1 - Chemex 2.0 coffee maker for $350 Link 2 - Technivorm Moccamaster Coffee Maker with Glass Carafe For $300 - Link 3 - Technivorm One Cup for $219 - Link 4 - Chemex for $45 Link plus the Zojirushi water boiler for $145 Link I think this is what I have narrowed it down to.This message has been edited. Last edited by: StorminNormin, NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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I am slightly leaning towards #2 as I make my coffee first in the morning and leave for work. I could make enough for both of us and hers will stay warm without burning and she doesn’t have to worry about making it My wife also many times takes coffee to go in tall coffee mugs that may not fit under the one cup brewer and she could then just pour the coffee into it. NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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I also went through a decision process. I make my coffee to go to work. A thermos and a travel cup. I need 60 ounces of brewed coffee. That's a 12 cup coffee maker. I couldn't find a suitable 12 cup so I bought the 10 cup Technivorm, and it works great. I brew one pot, fill my thermos. I start a second pot, eat breakfast and fill my travel cup, and two cups for my wife and me to enjoy. The rest of the pot is available for my wife to drink later. This routine works very well for me. I drink my coffee during the day, get home and make another pot (or two) for the evening. I know what you are thinking, "How can he drink coffee at 10pm and still sleep?" Answer, Like a baby. I can fall asleep drinking coffee, it doesn't keep me awake. Enjoy your coffee, drink the finest beans you can find and enjoy the flavor! Cheers, Doug in Colorado NRA Endowment Life Member | |||
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Dances With Tornados |
Dude! Look here Link $299 . | |||
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I'm Different! |
Get a thermal carafe and add a burr grinder for whole bean coffee. If you are investing in a Technivorm, you should use whole bean coffee & grind it fresh before brewing for best flavor. “Agnostic, gun owning, conservative, college educated hillbilly” | |||
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may have to give this a try. | |||
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Would you like a sandwich? |
I have an OXO 9 cup, and the OXO burr grinder... I have use the coffee maker for well over a year, every day, sometimes multiple times a day. I do clean it every 90 uses as it reminds me. It has plastic, but after comparing it to the technivorm, the plastic seems more substantial. I have had zero issues, and it is one of very few makers that receive an SCAA rating. Usually $199, but kohls always has coupons, so easy to get 30-40 % off. It is ridiculously easy to program and nice to have waiting for me. It comes apart for cleaning equally as well. It is a great value. Folks knocking it have zero personal use... It is at very least worth a look. I have had the grinder since December, I am tremendously pleased with it, roughly $100, very consistent grind, much quieter than old Cuisinart. | |||
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Yes, the K741 link was corrupted. The Technivorm Moccamaster K 741 Coffee Brewer is available for $270 here and there. Occasionally you see one in used-once condition for $125 or so. This is the one I'd get. The One-Cup might be nice for an office, but I can put on the kettle and brew one cup without dedicated counter space. A thermal carafe is convenient for day-drinkers, but seeing a clean carafe is part of the process for me. Grinding beans? Did it for years. A vacuum-packed grind in 13 oz bags seems to work at this point. An extraction expert who gifted my Moccamaster taught me to run a pot of water through it first. "Get everything good and hot" is exactly how he described it. A cold vacuum carafe would definitely want to be pre-warmed. I shelved the Moccamaster because I was 1] drinking way too much coffee 2] spending too much morning time drinking coffee instead of dragging my sorry butt into gear 3] noticed the coffee was not as hot as I like it, even after brewing 4] had to warm it up by the 2nd or 3rd cup 5] wanted the counter space for other stuff. I like every cup to have steam rising from it, freshly made. So I dusted off the pour-over and never looked back. One perfect cup. Then a 2nd if I want it. Even sometimes a 3rd (not today). Maybe a machine will come back in vogue. There's always the Moccamaster in the basement to dust off, run a couple of pots of water through, and put back into service. | |||
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I see some saying to “swish” the French press but I was told never to do this. Just steep for 4 minutes and delicately press the coffee. A chef at a snazzy place down here said that swishing imparts some bitterness and undesirable flavors. The waitstaff at this place presses your coffee at your table. Swishing is a Nono. I think they roast their beans there. ----------------------------------------------------------- TCB all the time... | |||
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If you're leaning towards the Technivorm Moccamaster, I would also vote for the thermal carafe. If you "preheat" it by sloshing around hot tap water through it, it keeps the coffee plenty hot for several hours. Some of the purists feel that leaving a glass carafe sitting on a hot plate "burns" the flavor out of the coffee. I can't say I've done a side by side taste test, but I sure do enjoy the coffee from the Moccamaster using the thermal carafe. As pointed out by OKCGene, Williams Sonoma is currently having a sale on their Technivorm. | |||
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I have a Keurig for my daily "in a hurry" cups and either use the San Francisco Coffee Co pods or the "my K Cup" with my own coffee as the K Cups taste like coffee flavored water. When I have more time I use a Coffee Gator french press which tastes worlds better. | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
I'll add my $.02. As others have stated, if you're going Technivorm get the thermal carafe instead of the glass carafe with coffee scalder/heater. If I want a long life, I preheat it with my 120 hot tap water. If you're going to drop $200+ on a coffee brewer, get one that has passed the rigorous testing to obtain the certified SCA home brewer cert. It's truly the golden age of coffee as when I bought mine and Dad's technivorms there was only 3 SCA certified to chose from. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Truth Seeker |
I am really torn between going with #2 or #4. My wife and I only have one cup in the morning during the week and sometimes two cups each on the weekend. If I was to go with Chemex pour over I would want the water heater that will heat to the proper temp. Either way, I will also get a burr grinder for fresh ground beans. Just got to decide which to get...ugh. I am now thinking of #4. NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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One caution about route number 4... The various Zojirushi models are different sizes and some may not be tall enough to fit a big Chemex under the nozzle (some definitely are). You could always pick it up or stick the nozzle out over the edge of a counter, but some people are bothered by stuff like that. | |||
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Truth Seeker |
Thank you for that info. I will look into that. Both seem to be sold at Williams Sonoma, which is where we will buy whatever we decide so we should be able to make sure it works. NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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I saw you were thinking of purchasing the Mocamaster, great choice. FWIW, Bed, Bath and Beyond has 20% off coupons and sells Technivoorm online. The “POLICE" Their job Is To Save Your Ass, Not Kiss It The muzzle end of a .45 pretty much says "go away" in any language - Clint Smith | |||
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Nosce te ipsum |
You'll never get any easier than a kettle and a plastic over-cup, with #2 $2/100 Trader Joe's unbleached filters. The HIC Coffee Filter Cone, Number 1-Size, Brews 1 to 2-Cups, is the standard. Made in Holland, about $6, you could get a red one and a black one for two different brews. I'll pour 400ml of water, measured the night before, into my kettle before sun-up. It's boiling in 90 seconds over flame - 212˚. Flame off, and 20 seconds later, closer to 195˚, I begin extraction. Three - five pours into the cone, and my mug is done. Steaming fresh, steaming hot. Cone in the sink, kettle on the hob, no counter footprint. Easy to set up another cone and a measure of water for the missus, set upon the counter. I pre-measure my water because 1] it is less wasteful to heat only what I want 2] my favorite mug is blue ceramic, so I want to know how much coffee I am making so as not to overflow my mug. 3] I set out water the night before to expediency; it acclimates, as well as vents chlorine Perhaps I'll go to a water boiler pot at some point. | |||
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My wife and I use an AeroPress: AeroPress Coffee and Espresso Maker - Quickly Makes Delicious Coffee without Bitterness - 1 to 3 Cups Per Pressing Faster than a pour-over. Easier to clean than a French press (which my wife used to use) and no grounds in the drink. My wife uses the paper filters. I like to retain the oils, so I use an Altura The Mesh: Premium Filter For Aeropress Coffee Makers We grind our whole-bean coffee in a Capresso Infinity: Capresso 565.05 Infinity Conical Burr Grinder, Stainless Steel We heat our water in a Delonghi icona Collection Electric kettle KBO1200J-R (Red)【Japan Domestic genuine products】 All three together: AeroPress + grinder + kettle is less expensive than any of the better drip brewers. We run the water through a Brita filter before heating it. For beans: We buy whatever looks and smells good at Costco. The only twitchy part of the process is heating the water. For the AeroPress, it's supposed to be between 175°F and 185°F. So you can't just let the kettle run until it stops. (About the time small bubbles appear on the bottom of the kettle and top of the water, it's about right.) That kettle heats water very quickly. Fill the kettle about 1/3 full, get out coffee and press. Grind the beans. Assemble the press. Pour in the grind. The water will be ready. Maybe even too ready. (In which case a transfer to a Pyrex measuring cup cools it down quickly.) It took my wife using the AeroPress for about a year, and extolling its virtues, before I gave it a try. I haven't brewed coffee in our drip machine, a Cuisinart Brew Central, in probably more than a year. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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If you go with the Technivorm, that doesn't mean that you have to brew a full pot each time...of course, you know that. Often, on the weekends, my wife and I will go through a pot, and then make another 1/4 or 1/2 to hit the spot. It doesn't brew a massive pot of coffee. And as you already said...a good grinder is a must. I was informed to get a ceramic burr grinder, and avoid the ones with metal blades. We have a Breville grinder, and love it. A friend of mine, who is the epitome of a coffee connoisseur, purchased a Breville Smart Ginder Pro and thinks it is unbeatable. https://www.amazon.com/Brevill...gateway&sr=8-2-spell | |||
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Buy a Technivorm Moccamaster. Be done with it. Once and done. Don’t be like me and spend a lot of money buying lesser quality machines. I have a big stack of other coffee makers stored in the pantry and a closet, including a Bonavita, a Chemex, Mocca Pot, French Press, percolators and drip makers, other pour overs, and more. A goose neck kettle for pouring hot water over and an electric hot water heater for it. Yes it’s ridiculous. I like coffee. I have 2 Technivorms. One is the Technivorm KBT741 (the metal carafe version) it’s stored all nicely cleaned in my pantry, always ready for use at home or away. In disclosure, it was given to me by someone who did a cross country move and lost some parts. They liked it so much that they went and bought a new Technivorm. They didn’t know parts were only a phone call away from Technivorm USA. My everyday Technivorm is a KB model with glass carafe, in the gorgeous copper color. Love it! I make a pot of coffee, drink a cup, pour the rest in a nice Thermos that goes with me when I leave the house. All bases covered. I’m just saying buy the Technivorm, don’t follow my example of blowing over a grand buying everything else before realizing Technivorm is the best. I should clarify. I said I like coffee. What I should say is I like a cup of really really excellent coffee. It’s like drinking cheap liquor, then one day you take a sip of mighty fine, and I mean mighty fine, bourbon or wine, whatever, and then you realize you just can’t ever again drink cheap liquor. Bottom line, in summary, that’s what a Technivorm Moccamaster, good freshly roasted beans, and your own quality burr grinder will do for you. Best wishes and good luck to you. EDIT ADD ON: Glass or metal carafe? Either is fine. You hear people say buy the metal carafe model, you might break the glass. However the glass is much easier to clean. People say you’ll never have a problem with a metal carafe. That’s not true. In all fairness the Bonavita I bought had some issues and a phone call to Bonavita was easy peasy, their customer service is top notch, they fixed the issues, including the carafe that wouldn’t keep hot. They said sometimes the metal carafes can lose vacuum (any brand of metal carafe) and they sent me a new one. Just giving Bonavita credit where credit is due. So now you’re wondering why I bought a Technivorm? While I was waiting for the Bonavita carafe to arrive I was in my local Williams Sonoma store looking around. The store manager asked my how I was enjoying my Bonavita. Upon hearing my answer she offered to sell me the copper color Technivorm for a tremendous discount. I couldn’t refuse. Took it home, made coffee, never looked back. I guess I should sell all the others I have stashed, except my other Technivorm. | |||
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