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"Get in a shootout and your gun jams with each shot."

^^^ I often have a dream, where my gun continually jams or fails to fire when I pull the trigger!


I used to have a recurrent dream that my Hi Power had about a fifty 75 pound trigger, and I couldn't get off a shot while the bad guy boolits were whizzing all around me.


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Having dreams like that, where your gun doesn't work, or the trigger's too heavy, or similar, is your subconscious saying that you aren't confident enough in your equipment and/or your skills.

Basically, your mind is hinting to you that you need to practice more.
 
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Hard to see. I think it is a nervous reaction to a tense situation maybe. Hard to say.


Actually, that is what I was thinking. Especially after the second shot, he immediately racks the slide. It almost looks like a habit.

I have wondered if dry firing with my glock (I have to reset it after every trigger pull) could create a 'habit' similar to this and that under great stress, could be manifest in a real way.



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It's also possible that he thought the gun was malfunctioning, even if it wasn't.

Extremely stressful life-and-death situations tend to cause sensory occlusion (auditory exclusion, tunnel vision, etc.). Folks who have to shoot in self defense sometimes report thinking that their gun wasn't working, because they didn't notice the same recoil/muzzle flash/report that they were used to.
 
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But... he kept shooting I have only had to shoot once to save my pelt. I was using a round gun at the time. I have watched the video several times to figure out what type of event caused him to continue clearing rounds, never did but, two things did occur. He kept in the fight and he chased after the bad guys. I carry two handguns off duty usually a Glock full size of some flavor or a Sig 226 in 9mm and a S&W 438 but that is me. I would think with the surprise of the attack he did well he is alive... VI
 
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Originally posted by Excam_Man:
"Get in a shootout and your gun jams with each shot."

^^^ I often have a dream, where my gun continually jams or fails to fire when I pull the trigger!


I used to have a recurrent dream that my Hi Power had about a fifty 75 pound trigger, and I couldn't get off a shot while the bad guy boolits were whizzing all around me.



Don't believe the psychological mumbo jumbo as to the reason why. It's because you're in the process of waking up, you're physically clenching your hand, your brain feels this, which doesn't feel like a gunshot and your brain adapts the story to your gun not working.

I say this because I used to have them all the time, finally one day waking up enough to realize I was awake and still squeezing the "trigger". Any time after that when it happened I would immediately wake up when the gun wouldn't go off.


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Maybe he should clean that thing a little more often?

Gotta give street cred to the homie that went back to help his boy out of the car. Most of the time they leave them for dead. This just happened in Pittsburgh... Roll Eyes

Any ideas what he was carrying?


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^^^ I often have a dream, where my gun continually jams or fails to fire when I pull the trigger!


Same here...it's an awful dream.
 
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^^^ I often have a dream, where my gun continually jams or fails to fire when I pull the trigger!


Same here...it's an awful dream.


Here's a great video for clearing jams, watch it a few times and get comfortable, then go to the range a practice it a few times. You'll lose that fear.




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Does anyone know the outcome of this incident?


This should be it, as the video is dated April 20. I could not find anything more.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20180420-story.html

Off-duty cop victim of Southwest Side attempted carjacking

Chicago Tribune staff
April 20,2018

A shootout erupted during the attempted carjacking of an off-duty Chicago police officer Friday morning on the city’s Southwest Side.

No one was injured during the incident, which happened about 9 a.m. in the 3700 block of West 79street in the city’s Ashburn neighborhood.

The assailant opened the passenger side of the police officer’s vehicle, pulled a gun and demanded the vehicle, police said.

When the officer exited and announced his office, they exchanged gunfire and the attacker fled in another car police said.

No one was injured and Area Central detectives are investigating.
 
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The bad guy, and even the good guy, were doing a little "jumping" movement when they were shooting. That is not going to aid in accuracy. I don't even think it will aid in not getting hit.



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The bad guy, and even the good guy, were doing a little "jumping" movement when they were shooting. That is not going to aid in accuracy. I don't even think it will aid in not getting hit.


I noticed that too. They probably learned how to perform in a gun fight from Fortnite.



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^^^ I often have a dream, where my gun continually jams or fails to fire when I pull the trigger!


Same here...it's an awful dream.


Same here again. Either the gun doesn't work or I can't get it out of the holster. That's not to say where I haven't had dreams where I got attacked and got shots off or even good shots and dropped the attacker(s), including one I had recently where a guy walked up to the car stopped beside me at a red light with an AK and started firing into the passenger window at both front seat occupants. I drew and brained him with one shot. But yeah, the gun not working has replaced dreams I used to have in years past where I would have to defend myself throwing kitten punches that did no damage.


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^^^ I often have a dream, where my gun continually jams or fails to fire when I pull the trigger!


Same here...it's an awful dream.


Here's a great video for clearing jams, watch it a few times and get comfortable, then go to the range a practice it a few times. You'll lose that fear.

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I don’t laugh out loud at many videos but that one got me.


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Could he have a Semmerling?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semmerling_LM4


I had no idea those existed. Kind of silly, and crazy expensive. I wonder how many people have shot themselves in the hand after racking the slide forward....
 
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It looks to me like maybe he is gripping the gun with his left thumb on top of the slide.

I have seen someone do this in a Force on Force exercise...they had no idea they were doing it.

People do weird things under high stress...unless they have the requisite number of repetitions not to.




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bad habits are easy to slide into - i know I need to oil my carry piece more often. Should set an alarm on my phone to remind me every couple weeks


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