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No scrutiny for me, please. I'll just take the deal.
 
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It depends on the level of scrutiny and publicity.

A Supreme Court justice or cabinet position is subject to a lot of fire. The assistant undersecretary of cheese might still require a Senate confirmation but unless there's something egregious in their past that somebody decides to turn into a hill to die om the nominee is skating through on a voice vote. I have a friend who was a undersecretary of something. The confirmation hearing was a joint hearing with other nominees and a voice vote. My biggest hurdle to a Senate confirmation hearing would be not putting up with bullshit from some of my inquisitors. They want to score cheap soundbites on me? It would very difficult for me to contain my smart mouth.

A prosecution is different. I ain't saying shit. I'm listening to counsel and the answers are yes, no, I don't recall, or I exercise my 5th amendment rights. Not fucking with feds where they can lie to me but if I so much as get a date confused I could end up in the pokey.
 
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I no longer have any desire to go into that level. Long ago I was heavily recruited by the FBI to work for them, but wasn’t qualified due to not having a bachelor degree. They kept telling me to get my degree and then the phone calls stopped after time of me not pursuing my degree. My boss and I did many great investigations with the FBI, which caused the recruitment of both of us. My boss was close to aging out and got fast tracked into becoming an agent, but I just didn’t feel like doing it.

My BIL is now a federal judge appointed by Trump in his previous presidency. He went through extreme scrutiny from the FBI investigation to then the committee testimony and then the house and senate votes. That is a lot to go through and he made it, but I just don’t have something like that in me. I am nine years from retirement and I am currently being pressured/asked to apply to promote at my current agency and I don’t want to go through it. I am happy where I am and just want to retire.

As far as court scrutiny, I am an on the side of the prosecution and have to go through defense attorney scrutiny in court. I survive, but it isn’t fun.

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It just made think about what my chances would be to survive a nomination investigation, or full blown investigation of my personal life by a motivated prosecutor.

That’s two different standards.
A nomination investigation is done by toothless congresscritters whose only power is to vote no. Party lines will rule the day as we’ve seen countless times.
Congress? Pfft…a bunch of pontificating screwballs mugging for a camera.

A motivated prosecutor on the other hand has MANY resources and time on his side. Plus - if they have an axe to grind - not disclosing exculpatory evidence, or flat out lying is not left out of their bag of tricks.


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NO ONE* will survive a prosecutor with an axe to grind, if he’s willing to cross lines.

*Billionaires, who can hire better investigators than the prosecutor has, excepted.
 
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The epidemic of lady politicians who cheat on their mortgage applications, or who spread the political graft around in their families, represent a small crime wave all by themselves. Once that information is out there in the public, it cannot be ignored. Probably none of them will go to jail, so they'll survive, but they may pay some fines.
 
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Sure, as long as they don't dig up my back yard. Wink



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Originally posted by Nuclear:
There is a book out there that states the average American violates multiple federal laws every day. After working in businesses in the environmental and nuclear industries, and my wife working in the financial industry, not only do I believe it, but everyone underestimates the sheer number of laws they break every day. Those of us on this website know about gun laws, but do you know all the federal vehicle laws you may be breaking? Or the laws on water usage and diversion?

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The book is Three Felonies A Day.

While I’d probably physically survive through either a Congressional or prosecutorial scrutiny my reputation could easily be ruined, as well as my finances. Note how often members of Congress simply lie during public hearings and face no consequences. Consider how the politically powerful Senator Ted Stevens was destroyed by federal prosecutors; what the presiding judge reportedly said was the worst case of prosecutorial misconduct he’d ever seen.

As a retired educator what chance would I have?

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I was audited 3 years in a row while i was in the navy,that was a waste my time and theirs.
 
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I recently applied for my Michigan insurance license to write a policy for a referral. MI Dept. of Insurance held up my app, claiming i had a police record in Riverside Co., CA from 2008. That was a speeding ticket I paid on time, I did the online traffic school to avoid the points AND I had been pulled over in CA since then and let go, meaning I didn't have a warrant. Took a while to get that cleared. MI is the only place that has ever mentioned that. My six other insurance licenses, Global Entry, CCWs and FFL background checks never found it or did and didn't care.


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I did some sketchy shit when I was a sailor-so no. Plus a background investigation would reveal who I used to be married to and that would be disqualifying on its face.

BTW never marry liberal(crazy)women

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I committed fraud once to fight a fraudulent parking ticket in a major city far from my home. I had parked at a meter, paid for the max two hours, came back to my car with five min left on the meter and a ticket for expired meter was on my windshield. Time on the ticket was 10 min into the future. This was before cell phones were common. I was headed home that night and requested a "trial by declaration." I had access to a credit card terminal at my job and made up a receipt for the date and approx. time of the ticket and my location was 250 miles away. The court found in my favor too. Yeah, it was probably illegal, but how else was I going to fight that totally BS ticket?


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