I didn't go this year. In years past we've had several members attend and threads regarding what was seen etc.
But nothing this year. In fact, it seems like there was very little attention paid to CES compared to other years, even among technical podcasters etc..
The only thing I heard is the power went out in the main hall, and as a result all the shiny electronics wasn't able to work, at least during that time.
Other than silly things like using an Echo to command the water temperature of your shower, and the addition of some higher pixel TV's, and a new WiFi standard, I heard nothing.
Anyone go or hear anything about it this year?
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I'm a 12 volt specialist, and I haven't been to CES in years. The internet is mostly making it irrelevant, as new product information is instantly disseminated. In 12 volt there are more specialized events/shows that are becoming popular, like Knowledgefest and the SEMA show.
I always liked going, and making personal contact with vendors that we don't normally see in person, but it's wholly unnecessary now. Some of our biggest vendors no longer exhibit there. And someone always gets sick with all of the international travelers.
The IoT craze is on track to virtually abolish all semblances of privacy, commodify your personal data and put you at the financial mercy of your carrier and ISP.
Originally posted by DoctorSolo: The IoT craze is on track to virtually abolish all semblances of privacy, commodify your personal data and put you at the financial mercy of your carrier and ISP.
Wouldn't your smartphone be a bigger (or as big) of a threat?
Hmmm, a GPS transponder that you take everywhere. Oh, with a built in mic that you have no control over. Wait, it's got a camera that you don't fully have control of either (unless you cover it with a sticker)
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At least with a smart phone you can root it and turn off extranious “companions” and other services, turn on vpn, etc...Unless you have an iphone.
A disturbing amount of people I talk to see nothing wrong with the possibility of being remotely monitored by malicious individuals and states. IoT not only gives hackers a way to monitor you and steal data, they can control your tv, coffee pot, and underwear too.
I get that you are just trying to throw a monkey wrench in what I’m saying, but just because we have smart phones does not mean we should just give up on privacy and get complacent about having every device we own becoming hackable.
The only thing I read about that interested me was about an Alpine single DIN head unit with a floating 9 inch display with Android Auto and CarPlay in it. But then it turns out that it was way more expensive than I could reasonably afford considering the other expenses I would have to incur to make it work in my car.
Two things of interest to me this year. Discussions of the coming 5G cellular network, and the new fingerprint scanner for your next phone that exists under the actual screen of the phone (i.e. no more dedicated fingerprint reader or home button to muck up the screen).
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Originally posted by DoctorSolo: The IoT craze is on track to virtually abolish all semblances of privacy, commodify your personal data and put you at the financial mercy of your carrier and ISP.
Slightly off-topic: I don't want to live in a world where I need antivirus software on my dishwasher/refrigerator/coffee machine/etc.
Wasn't there an image floating around about the coffee maker that got ransomware'd?
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Big news for me is that GoPro finally got a clue and started dropping their prices on their action cameras. Finally feeling the pressure from DJI, Yi, and Zhiyun.
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Originally posted by honestlou: I'm a 12 volt specialist, and I haven't been to CES in years. The internet is mostly making it irrelevant, as new product information is instantly disseminated. In 12 volt there are more specialized events/shows that are becoming popular, like Knowledgefest and the SEMA show.
I know CES has gotten very expensive. Both for vendors and attendees.
What I have not heard was how many people attended compared to years past. I'm not sure why. Just haven't looked in the right place yet.
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The 'high end audio' manufacturers attending have been reported as way way down (1/2?) from prior years-down to 200 attendees or thereabouts. In the 70's it was a huge share of the CES show(I was involved into the early 2000's) and even then was contending with video tape (and later DVD) porn for a period. Now it is being attributed to new millennial cultural shifts, that high end audio is no longer the status symbol it once was, and due also to internet streaming, cell phones etc. Classical music sales way down. Long list of reasons offered. An affordable and well attended show in Denver in the Fall was asserted to be the replacement for CES audio in the reviews I read. Too, the auto business has become a very large part of the show. Without even mentioning computing! The CES costs have gone off scale and only very large corporations can afford it, of which there remain only a few in that sector. The smaller entrepreneurial innovators have been squeezed out for a decade or more.
