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Interesting take on Apple iPhone and innovation (or lack of)
August 28, 2018, 07:36 AM
Ronin1069Interesting take on Apple iPhone and innovation (or lack of)
While a self proclaimed ‘fanboy’ of all things Apple, I agree with this article because it goes after Cook for being afraid to innovate and using “hope” as a strategy.
No question Apple would be a very different company if Jobs had not died.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/e...e-date/#4d147ffa6e72
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August 28, 2018, 07:49 AM
PASigI love my iPhone but have been saying for years now that Steve Jobs WAS Apple. When he died, what we knew of as Apple died with him and the Apple of today is not the same company. They are basically still trying to operate with his ideas and don’t really have anything new to offer other than bigger screens. Apple today reminds me of Microsoft of around 1998-2000 when they were riding high as the king of the hill.
August 28, 2018, 08:25 AM
PatriotThere is nowhere else to go in phones...except speed in processing and data storage capacity.
The “next” big thing will be merging your phone as a single device. No more laptop or PC...just docks with your phone holding everything.
There is nothing left to innovate in phones or tablets with this in mind.
One device IS the next innovation.
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August 28, 2018, 08:53 AM
Opus Deiquote:
Originally posted by Patriot:
There is nowhere else to go in phones...except speed in processing and data storage capacity.
The “next” big thing will be merging your phone as a single device. No more laptop or PC...just docks with your phone holding everything.
There is nothing left to innovate in phones or tablets with this in mind.
One device IS the next innovation.
HP Elite x3 was variously too early or too late.
August 28, 2018, 08:55 AM
gearhoundsquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
I love my iPhone but have been saying for years now that Steve Jobs WAS Apple. When he died, what we knew of as Apple died with him and the Apple of today is not the same company.
Yup. Very much the same with the progression of Disney. Focus changed from emphasis on customer happiness to making as much money as possible.
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Pipe SmokerTim Cook is like Steve Jobs with the genius switch turned off.
Serious about crackers. August 28, 2018, 09:41 AM
ensigmaticFaster processors, better displays, more memory, better wireless/WiFi/Bluetooth connectivity and,
most of all, more runtime on battery. Improvements in toughness (water and drop resistance) are always welcome.
And fix freaking iTunes. It's a hot mess, from all I've read. Fix it and get us a Linux client.
Please stop mucking-about with the USB connectivity. There is no reason, in this day-and-age, I should not be able to connect my phone to my computer to swap media between the two.
All that being said: My wife and I are happy with our iThings. Only thing I really miss on mine is an analogue to WiFi Analyzer.
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Cromquote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
Faster processors, better displays, more memory, better wireless/WiFi/Bluetooth connectivity and, most of all, more runtime on battery. Improvements in toughness (water and drop resistance) are always welcome.
And fix freaking iTunes. It's a hot mess, from all I've read. Fix it and get us a Linux client.
Please stop mucking-about with the USB connectivity. There is no reason, in this day-and-age, I should not be able to connect my phone to my computer to swap media between the two.
I just remembered why I always use Windows and Android.
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August 28, 2018, 09:48 AM
SpinZonequote:
Originally posted by Ronin1069:
No question Apple would be a very different company if Jobs had not died.
While not an Apple fanboy, you are 100% on the mark .
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August 28, 2018, 09:50 AM
SpinZonequote:
Originally posted by Patriot:
The “next” big thing will be merging your phone as a single device. No more laptop or PC...just docks with your phone holding everything.
Motorola tried this a few years back with the Atrix. While a great smart phone it fell short on the one device part.
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August 28, 2018, 10:02 AM
reloader-1quote:
Originally posted by SpinZone:
quote:
Originally posted by Patriot:
The “next” big thing will be merging your phone as a single device. No more laptop or PC...just docks with your phone holding everything.
Motorola tried this a few years back with the Atrix. While a great smart phone it fell short on the one device part.
When Motorola tried it, it was just too early. Not enough processing power.
Right now Qualcomm Snapdragon (ARM) chips are capable of running Windows 10, and we are almost getting to that point where your phone is your computer. Give it 3-5 years or so...
August 28, 2018, 10:44 AM
ensigmaticquote:
Originally posted by SpinZone:
quote:
Originally posted by Patriot:
The “next” big thing will be merging your phone as a single device. No more laptop or PC...just docks with your phone holding everything.
Motorola tried this a few years back with the Atrix. While a great smart phone it fell short on the one device part.
Somebody else, ASUS, possibly?, tried it even before them. Their's was a phone/tablet thing. It didn't seem to go far.
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Originally posted by reloader-1:
When Motorola tried it, it was just too early. Not enough processing power.
Right now Qualcomm Snapdragon (ARM) chips are capable of running Windows 10, and we are almost getting to that point where your phone is your computer. Give it 3-5 years or so...
And as the tiny, mobile processors gain power, so will their larger brethren. As their larger brethren gain power, so will the operating systems that run on them gain in sophistication and resource hunger.
The new Qualcomm Snapdragon may be
capable of running MS-Win 10, but I doubt it'll hold a candle to a current-generation "full-size" CPU/GPU doing so.
I'm long out of the hardware design arena, but, last I knew the big problem was heat. As anybody who's run the ever-lovin' bejesus out of a "hot" smartphone knows: The heat's gotta go somewhere. With tiny little processors in tiny little enclosures there's just so much heat management that can be accomplished. That's the reason for aluminium cases. (Which does wonders for wireless performance.)
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August 28, 2018, 08:05 PM
ensigmaticquote:
Originally posted by Crom:
I just remembered why I always use Windows and Android.
Does Apple annoy me? Oh yaz, they most certainly do. But essentially
all tech annoys me. Apple I trust--mostly. Android & Microsoft? Yeah... not so much. Not at all, really.
And that's why I avoid MS-Windows and Android.
But to each their own *shrug*
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reloader-1Ensigmatic, great points re: heat and OS resource usage. However, there is still a need for bare devices that handle basic email/internet/video playback functions, and that’s were these devices can play.
Re: MacOS/Android/Windows, one thing I’ve had to learn is to constantly try each OS as the “better” version can flip rapidly from one manufacturer to another. The current Win 10, on current hardware is pretty good, IMHO. I wouldn’t have said the same for Win 8/7.
August 28, 2018, 08:15 PM
GustoferI want an iPhone with satellite connectivity. Around these parts there are more dead spots than not.
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August 28, 2018, 08:24 PM
bigdealquote:
Originally posted by Patriot:
There is nowhere else to go in phones...except speed in processing and data storage capacity.
I'm going to respectfully disagree. We're on the very front end of what I view as a shift in the cellular phone market. That shift is going to be based upon 'Value'. Phones have gotten too expensive with iPhones north of $1k and some Android flagships nearing $1k. The OnePlus 5T and the new 6 have been overwhelming successes offering close to flagship specs for 50-60% of flagship prices. In just the last week, Xiaomi released the
Pocophone F1 that offers near flagship specs for
$299. Watch the YouTube videos on this phone. The thing is impressive both on the software and hardware front.
As these high spec but low cost phones continue to hit the market, I think the Apple's and Samsung's are going to have to rethink their business model. Ultimately for many buyers its going to come down to....
"Why do I need to pay double (or triple) for an iPhone or Galaxy Note when one of these new value oriented phones will do 90%+ of what those phones will for a third the price."I've carried an older OnePlus 3T (a $349 phone) everyday for the past two years and it still outpaces some of the phones my peers carry that they spent twice as much for.
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August 28, 2018, 08:47 PM
jigray3I'd like for my next phone to be, surprise, a better phone. Make one that doesn't sound like shit to me and the person on the other end. I want to be able to understand the caller and want them to understand me particularly in a noisy ambient setting. That would be an improvement.
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oddballquote:
Originally posted by jigray3:
I'd like for my next phone to be, surprise, a better phone. Make one that doesn't sound like shit to me and the person on the other end. I want to be able to understand the caller and want them to understand me particularly in a noisy ambient setting. That would be an improvement.
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August 28, 2018, 09:28 PM
jimmy123xquote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
Faster processors, better displays, more memory, better wireless/WiFi/Bluetooth connectivity and, most of all, more runtime on battery. Improvements in toughness (water and drop resistance) are always welcome.
And fix freaking iTunes. It's a hot mess, from all I've read. Fix it and get us a Linux client.
Please stop mucking-about with the USB connectivity. There is no reason, in this day-and-age, I should not be able to connect my phone to my computer to swap media between the two.
All that being said: My wife and I are happy with our iThings. Only thing I really miss on mine is an analogue to WiFi Analyzer.
I have an iPhone 7, it's plenty fast and everything else. There are three things I want to see in the next iPhone.
More toughness- waterproof and better drop resistance- IP68
Better battery life
Better screen-iPhone really lacks here compared to the Samsungs aside from the X
the rest of it.....do we really need more speed