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As a healthcare professional this one his me scratching my head. I guess I can understand why they wouldn’t want the use of the word transgender but evidence-based, science-based, and fetus? WTF is that? Medicine as all science is evidenced based.

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...ender-fetus.amp.html

Trump administration reportedly prohibits CDC from using words like 'transgender,' 'fetus'

Fox NewsDecember 16, 2017
FILE: CDC headquarters in Atlanta. A report said the agency got list of forbidden words from the Trump administration.
Analysts from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention were reportedly told that the Trump administration is prohibiting the agency from using seven words or phrases that include “transgender” and “fetus.”

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The Washington Post, citing an analyst at the meeting in Atlanta, reported that the ban is related to the 2019 budget that is given to Congress and CDC’s partners.

The report said the forbidden words are “vulnerable,” “entitlement,” “diversity,” “transgender,” “fetus,” “evidence –based” and “science-based.”

The CDC and the Office of Management and Budget did not respond to the paper, but the paper cited another unnamed official who confirmed the list’s existence. The report said that analysts were, in some cases, given alternate wording for the phrases.

In the case of “science-based” and “evidence-based,” the analyst said a substitute phrase was: “CDC bases its recommendations on science in consideration with community standards and wishes."

CDC, the nation's top public health agency, is the only federal agency headquartered outside of Washington, D.C. It has nearly 12,000 employees, and about three-quarters of them are based in the Atlanta area.

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The analyst told the paper that they "could not recall a previous time when words were banned from budget documents" due to ideology.”

The Associated Press contributed to this report


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I'll wait and see if anything more comes out about this. I don't believe The Washington Post.



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This sounds more like an Obama-style move to me.




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This sounds more like an Obama-style move to me.


Yes Except those aren’t words that would offend libs


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I'll wait and see if anything more comes out about this. I don't believe The Washington Post.


Yeah, the left wing Bezos blog runs a story based on some activist's word with no context given.

Not that ABC is any better, but at least they contacted HHS.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics...us/story?id=51832679

HHS disputes report that it has banned CDC from using words like 'diversity' and 'fetus'

Trump administration officials in the Department of Health and Human Services said a report that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the leading U.S. public health agency, is being barred from using certain words, including "diversity," "transgender" and "fetus," is a “complete mischaracterization.”

The Washington Post reported that policy analysts at the CDC were told in a meeting Thursday to not use certain words in any official documents for preparing for the budget for fiscal year 2019.

The words are: "evidence-based," "science-based," "entitlement," "vulnerable," "diversity," "transgender," and "fetus," the Post reported.

In response to ABC News' request for comment from the CDC, an HHS spokesperson responded in a statement.

"The assertion that HHS has 'banned words' is a complete mischaracterization of discussions regarding the budget formulation process," the HHS statement said. "HHS will continue to use the best scientific evidence available to improve the health of all Americans. HHS also strongly encourages the use of outcome and evidence data in program evaluations and budget decisions.”

ABC News asked HHS for further clarification but has not yet received a response.

The Post reported that, according to a source, policy analysts were given some phrases to use instead of the prohibited words, such as instead of saying “science-based” or “evidence-based” using the phrase, “CDC bases its recommendations on science in consideration with community standards and wishes.”

Some of the CDC's work deals explicitly with issues described by the reportedly banned words. The health agency's web page with information on the Zika virus for pregnant women notes, for example, that "Zika virus can be passed from a pregnant woman to her fetus."

And the CDC's National Center for HIV/AIDS, Viral Hepatitis, STD, and TB Prevention refers on its website to the importance of its mission of "addressing the health needs of people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender."



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Colleges have been banning words for years. NOW it's bad?

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https://www.lssu.edu/banished-words-list/


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List of potentially offensive words posted by University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee

http://kdvr.com/2016/08/25/lis...wisconsin-milwaukee/


and so many more....


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The Washington Post, citing an analyst at the meeting in Atlanta, reported that the ban is related to the 2019 budget that is given to Congress and CDC’s partners.

The report said the forbidden words are “vulnerable,” “entitlement,” “diversity,” “transgender,” “fetus,” “evidence –based” and “science-based.”

The CDC and the Office of Management and Budget did not respond to the paper, but the paper cited another unnamed official who confirmed the list’s existence. The report said that analysts were, in some cases, given alternate wording for the phrases.

As Levin would say, the Washington Compost.


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Even the Air Force is getting in on it...

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The Air Force fears that words like boy, girl, colonial and blacklist might offend people, according to an email sent to Airmen at Joint Base San Antonio.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion...ld-be-offensive.html


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Oh bull...


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Well, I see that the WAPO tripped over their tie on this one. Now they are walking back this blast of shit about CDC verboten words. Why don’t they do America a favor and just close their doors. Their credibility is so bad it’s not even up to shit-paper standards.

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The Department of Health and Human Services on Saturday ripped a report in The Washington Post that it had banned seven words from documents being prepared for future budget reports, calling it a "complete mischaracterization of discussions regarding the budget-formulation process."




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Well, I see that the WAPO tripped over their tie on this one. Now they are walking back this blast of shit about CDC verboten words. Why don’t they do America a favor and just close their doors. Their credibility is so bad it’s not even up to shit-paper standards.


Seriously? Christ, what a freakin' joke. Roll Eyes


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I had my doubts from the time I read the first post. Most everything we do is evidence based. I guess WaPo wanted us to use "best Guess"?


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Here's the best explanation I've seen about what seems to have really happened. It fleshes out some comments made above:

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No, HHS Did Not “Ban Words”
On Friday, the Washington Post published a story that began:

The Trump administration is prohibiting officials at the nation’s top public health agency from using a list of seven words or phrases — including “fetus” and “transgender” — in official documents being prepared for next year’s budget.

The story goes on to complicate this claim a little bit, noting, for instance, some distinctions between terms that were supposedly flagged as prohibited in draft budget documents and others regarding which a prohibition “had been conveyed verbally” in a meeting among career officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But the basic claim of the story is that HHS is telling its employees they’re not allowed to use seven words or terms—“vulnerable,” “entitlement,” “diversity,” “transgender,” “fetus,” “evidence-based” and “science-based.”

Naturally, this assertion has caused a big stir, setting loose everything from charges of censorship to worries that the CDC won’t be able to help victims of terrible diseases if they can’t communicate openly about their work. I was pretty startled by the story myself, and it sent me reaching out to a number of officials at HHS and its sub-agencies for an explanation. These conversations have left me persuaded that the impression created by the Post’s story is not accurate.

What seems to have happened here involves two sets of circumstances. First, the budget office at HHS sent the various divisions of the department a style guide to use in their budget-proposal language and “congressional justification” documents for the coming year. That style guide, which sets out a standard style for everything from capitalization of the titles of key offices to some commonly disputed points of grammar and punctuation, also sets out some words to be avoided. These, I am told, are avoided because they are frequently misused or regularly overused in departmental documents (make of that what you will) and they include three terms on the Post’s list: “vulnerable,” “diversity,” and “entitlement.” The style guide does not prohibit the use of these terms, but it says they should be used only when alternatives (which it proposes in some cases) cannot be.

I don’t remember there being a style guide for budget documents when I worked at HHS and at the White House in the Bush years, but one person I spoke with suggested there was one and that the Obama administration also used a style guide. Either way, many organizations in and out of government do the same, of course, as indeed the Washington Post does. No one denied, however, that these three terms were added to the budget-proposal style guide in this administration.

Did it make sense to suggest avoiding these terms? “Entitlement” really isn’t a term that should be used in congressional-justification documents (where “mandatory” is the technical, if actually less correct, term of art). The common practice of substituting the term “vulnerable” for “poor” has a long history of annoying some Republicans on Capitol Hill, and presumably that accounts for the instruction to avoid it in congressional-justification documents—although this has come up more often in the work of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services than in that of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In public health, after all, “vulnerable” has a distinct definition, and there are some CDC programs that couldn’t really avoid using the term in justifying their budget requests (like the Social Vulnerability Index). Presumably the guidance wasn’t intended for them. Your guess is as good as mine (and probably similar to mine) as to why HHS career officials might have thought “diversity” was not a good word to use with congressional Republicans. But these three are “avoid when possible” terms in a style guide specifically intended for budget documents. They’re not words that are banned in the department.

Second, these three terms to avoid apparently came up in the course of a meeting among career officials at the CDC late last week about preparing next year’s congressional-justification documents. That discussion then led to a conversation in the meeting about other terms that might be best avoided. (To be very clear: I did not speak with anyone who was present at that meeting, though I did speak with people who later spoke with the career CDC person who was in charge of the meeting and briefed the other career people there.) This meeting did not involve any political appointees, and apparently the conversation about terms beyond “diversity,” “entitlements,” and “vulnerable” was not about terms that anyone in the department had said should be avoided but about terms that it might be wise to avoid so as not to raise red flags among Republicans in Congress.

In other words, what happened regarding these other terms (“transgender,” “fetus,” “evidence-based,” and “science-based”) was not that retrograde Republicans ordered career CDC officials not to use these terms but that career CDC officials assumed retrograde Republicans would be triggered by such words and, in an effort to avoid having such Republicans cut their budgets, reasoned they might be best avoided. With regard to “evidence-based” and “science-based” in particular, I gather the reasoning was simpler than that, and that the group thought these terms are so overused in the CDC budget documents they were discussing as to become nearly meaningless and that their use should be limited to where it actually made a point.

This suggests two significant caveats to the Post story and the firestorm that has followed it. First, the question of these terms (both those in the style guide and those that came up in last week’s CDC meeting) relates only to a distinct subset of budget documents and not to the general work of the CDC or other agencies. No one is saying people can’t use these terms at HHS, though some people clearly think they shouldn’t be used in budget requests sent to Congress. And second, the most peculiar and alarming of the reported prohibitions on terms were not prohibitions at all and did not come from higher-ups in the department but emerged in the course of an internal conversation at CDC about how to avoid setting off congressional Republicans and so how to maximize the agency’s chances of getting its budget-request approved.

If all of that is correct (and I can only report what I gather from the HHS officials I’ve spoken with) it does make for an interesting story. But it’s not nearly as interesting as the Washington Post made it seem, and it doesn’t point to quite the same lessons either. In fact, it probably tells us more about the attitudes and assumptions of the career officials in various HHS offices than about the political appointees of the administration they are now supposed to be working for.


Link: Yuval Levin, NRO Corner


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so the "banned" words came from career people in CDC to help their budget sail through congress.

and the media reported the ban as from the Trump administration.

"The analyst told the paper that they "could not recall a previous time when words were banned from budget documents" due to ideology.”"

maybe the media should ask the "analyst" what the hell he was talking about
 
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Final confirmation that the entire thing was career officials who thought that if they left those words out of budget requests they could get their pet projects funded.

It was never anything to do with Trump or any other official ordering a ban on words.

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From the left wing Slate, no less:

There Is No Ban on Words at the CDC



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OMB has a certain way they want things phrased in The Presidents Budget, and it changes with each administration. No big deal.
 
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OMB has a certain way they want things phrased in The Presidents Budget, and it changes with each administration. No big deal.


This wasn't even the case here. The OMB has issued no directives or anything. This was the CDC brass trying to figure out a way to get their pet projects funded and ASSUMED that keeping those words out of the proposals would increase their chances of being accepted.

This was a case of shoddy 'reporting' by an organization that is nothing more than a left wing blog nowadays. Anything with a hint of something bad about Trump or his administration is instantly published, tweeted and spread far and wide with no fact checking and no thought as to what this doing to their reputation.



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