I watched both this documentary and the one from Mike Lindell, which both are very good. With all this information it will be hard to refute but unfortunately we have the demon-rats in control so nothing will happen right now. However we always have hope in the future. God Bless !!!

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8. Nothing has been done to stop this from happening again

And nothing of consequence will.

The only way to stop this from happening again is by banning mail-in ballots and going back to in-person voting on a paper ballot and only with a proper ID. The commies fight that tooth and nail by screaming disenfranchisement and racism when the truth is that they would not be able to cheat (as much) if we did it that way.

And yeah, it was crystal clear what was going to happen on the night of the election when GA announced they were stopping counting due to a water main break. Crystal clear.

They lie, they cheat, and they steal...it's what they do.

What ever happened to the truck driver who testified under oath that he delivered filled out ballots to PA from Long Island on election night? I'd be willing to bet that every one of the ballots in his truck were stuffed in boxes by these mules. Hopefully he's still on the right side of the dirt.

Democrats have been unleashed and emboldened. They know that they are no longer constrained by moral limits. Ends justify the means.

This will only end: 1) if we just give up; 2) or if we take the fight to them and forcibly take back control (not political posturing - refreshing the tree of liberty).

Dems will not return to center - they've gone off the reservation.

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The only way to stop this from happening again is by banning mail-in ballots and going back to in-person voting on a paper ballot and only with a proper ID. The commies fight that tooth and nail by screaming disenfranchisement and racism when the truth is that they would not be able to cheat (as much) if we did it that way.

It's really pretty simple, isn't it?
Vote, in person, on election day, with a photo ID?

I'm coming to realize that solutions to major problems don't have to be complicated. It's the will to implement them that is difficult. If half of the people in this country don't even see a problem (because they think they benefit) it's not going to be solved.

The facts don’t matter. We’ve known this for 18 months now.


As long as you control the narrative and all the channels of communication, the facts simply do not matter one whit.

I have some investigative experience and those techniques are legitimate. I think they could have toned down the set dramatization a bit. The dark rooms with monitors blasting blue light. And there were a couple video clips at ballot boxes that looked like they were dramatizations and not actual surveillance footage. Those should have been marked as such.

Shapiro gave a very thorough analysis of the movie today. Although there was much to raise suspicion, it was not the Kracken.

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
It’s proof beyond a reasonable doubt

Is it though? Beyond any doubt??

Shapiro's take. He's not sure how the phone tracking works. Had questions about how accurate it is. Questioned the fact that a control sample wasn't taken in a non swing state to see if this activity is indeed unusual. Questions the fact while plates were visible in Georgia tracking down one of these "mules" and asking them what were you doing was never done, and one fraudulent ballot was never proven.

My take. While I have my doubts about wide spread election fraud, this information is interesting, and gives us a good notion what we should watch for next time. If this election was stolen it only going to embolden Democrats and they will get caught.

I suspect the homes of some of the mules could be easily identified using the same data. Having identified probable mules, they could look for locations in residential areas that those mules spent 4+ hours.

I would focus my efforts on mules you have very good physical descriptors and surveillance footage for.

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Originally posted by Keystoner:
Shapiro gave a very thorough analysis of the movie today. Although there was much to raise suspicion, it was not the Kracken.

There are no Kracken. There's no 'smoking gun' either. After a year and a half, the smoke has dissipated. That doesn't mean there's no evidence. There's lots of it. But the people who matter (Bill Barr , the Supreme Court ) don't really want to see it.

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
The facts don’t matter. We’ve known this for 18 months now.
As long as you control the narrative and all the channels of communication, the facts simply do not matter one whit.

Joe Biden got 81 million votes!
The math doesn't even make sense on that.

Biden won more votes nationally than any presidential candidate in history, but he won a record low 17% of counties — yet Biden somehow outdid Obama in total votes? If this doesn't at least make you curious about the voting anomalies, you're simply not being honest.

This may be challenging for many to accept, but again this is not about Trump; it's about attaining a certain level of confidence moving forward in how we elect leaders. The most sacred right of citizenship must have transparency, otherwise, there can be no election peace.

Shouldn't every single allegation be vetted? Are any Democrats even the slightest bit concerned with the potential possibility that nefarious and unscrupulous activities may have given your candidate an advantage? Shouldn't every citizen be insisting on complete clarity and absolute precision?

Also Shapiro asks why weren't the Democrat non profits named. I do agree with him that this is suspicious as hell and warrants an investigation. If not huge surveillance during the next general. True the Vote said they have more. I'm waiting.

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
It’s proof beyond a reasonable doubt

Is it though? Beyond any doubt??

He said beyond a reasonable doubt. Not any doubt.

And yes it is.

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Originally posted by goose5:
Shapiro's take. He's not sure how the phone tracking works. Had questions about how accurate it is. Questioned the fact that a control sample wasn't taken in a non swing state to see if this activity is indeed unusual. Questions the fact while plates were visible in Georgia tracking down one of these "mules" and asking them what were you doing was never done, and one fraudulent ballot was never proven.

My take. While I have my doubts about wide spread election fraud, this information is interesting, and gives us a good notion what we should watch for next time. If this election was stolen it only going to embolden Democrats and they will get caught.

Next time the mules won’t take their phones with them!

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Originally posted by DonDraper:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by DonDraper:

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
It’s proof beyond a reasonable doubt

Is it though? Beyond any doubt??

He said beyond a reasonable doubt. Not any doubt.

And yes it is.

No, it's not. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is the legal burden of proof required to affirm a conviction in a criminal case. This is absolutely not what we're seeing here. You have no idea and neither do the producers of the film, of what those ballots were for. You never will either. You'd need video footage and identification of every single mule, plus some kind of proof that those ballots were fraudulent. Cell phone data showing someone drove by a ballot box does not cut it. Come back to reality.

Hahaha, yeah ok.

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:

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Originally posted by goose5:
Shapiro's take. He's not sure how the phone tracking works. Had questions about how accurate it is. Questioned the fact that a control sample wasn't taken in a non swing state to see if this activity is indeed unusual. Questions the fact while plates were visible in Georgia tracking down one of these "mules" and asking them what were you doing was never done, and one fraudulent ballot was never proven.

My take. While I have my doubts about wide spread election fraud, this information is interesting, and gives us a good notion what we should watch for next time. If this election was stolen it only going to embolden Democrats and they will get caught.

Next time the mules won’t take their phones with them!

That would solve this problem. If this is all true, and they did do all this what does this suggest? What can we learn from this information. What I see is the left/Democrats have an election ground game that far exceeds the right. That's got to change.

In my opinion many people are getting the wrong premise of the videos intent. We all know that in most states only yourself or an immediate family member can submit the ballot in the ballot box.
For example:

Pennsylvania 25 P.S. § 3146.6
Implied that only the voter may return their ballot

Michigan M.C.L.A. 168.764a
An immediate family member or household member may deliver a ballot to the clerk for the voter.

Wisconsin W.S.A. 6.87
Implies only the voter for mail return; “the envelope shall be mailed by the elector, or delivered in person, to the municipal clerk issuing the ballot or ballots.”

It does not matter who the ballots were for Trump, Biden, etc. What matters is what they have shown is "If a ballot was NOT cast in a LEGAL manner, then it should not count and is an illegal ballot." The evidence is showing very serious reasonable doubt that these people or mules are submitting ballots that are not their own or immediate family members. And for people that support Biden, they too should be interested in seeing this investigated as they ***should*** care that our elections are fair and safe with no doubts.

Again just my opinion from watching this movie and the one from pillow guy Mike Lindell. God Bless !!!

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They also brought up the fact that these ballot drop boxes were privately funded. So the box itself was a ballot harvesting apparatus.

Looks like the media like the AP is now admitting that the voting machines are vulnerable to hacking. God Bless !!!

https://apnews.com/article/202...4dbf794349df498c9542


ATLANTA (AP) — Electronic voting machines from a leading vendor used in at least 16 states have software vulnerabilities that leave them susceptible to hacking if unaddressed, the nation’s leading cybersecurity agency says in an advisory sent to state election officials.

The U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency, or CISA, said there is no evidence the flaws in the Dominion Voting Systems’ equipment have been exploited to alter election results. The advisory is based on testing by a prominent computer scientist and expert witness in a long-running lawsuit that is unrelated to false allegations of a stolen election pushed by former President Donald Trump after his 2020 election loss.

The advisory, obtained by The Associated Press in advance of its expected Friday release, details nine vulnerabilities and suggests protective measures to prevent or detect their exploitation. Amid a swirl of misinformation and disinformation about elections, CISA seems to be trying to walk a line between not alarming the public and stressing the need for election officials to take action.
CISA Executive Director Brandon Wales said in a statement that “states’ standard election security procedures would detect exploitation of these vulnerabilities and in many cases would prevent attempts entirely.” Yet the advisory seems to suggest states aren’t doing enough. It urges prompt mitigation measures, including both continued and enhanced “defensive measures to reduce the risk of exploitation of these vulnerabilities.” Those measures need to be applied ahead of every election, the advisory says, and it’s clear that’s not happening in all of the states that use the machines.
University of Michigan computer scientist J. Alex Halderman, who wrote the report on which the advisory is based, has long argued that using digital technology to record votes is dangerous because computers are inherently vulnerable to hacking and thus require multiple safeguards that aren’t uniformly followed. He and many other election security experts have insisted that using hand-marked paper ballots is the most secure method of voting and the only option that allows for meaningful post-election audits.

“These vulnerabilities, for the most part, are not ones that could be easily exploited by someone who walks in off the street, but they are things that we should worry could be exploited by sophisticated attackers, such as hostile nation states, or by election insiders, and they would carry very serious consequences,” Halderman told the AP.

Concerns about possible meddling by election insiders were recently underscored with the indictment of Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters in Colorado, who has become a hero to election conspiracy theorists and is running to become her state’s top election official. Data from the county’s voting machines appeared on election conspiracy websites last summer shortly after Peters appeared at a symposium about the election organized by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell. She was also recently barred from overseeing this year’s election in her county.
One of the most serious vulnerabilities could allow malicious code to be spread from the election management system to machines throughout a jurisdiction, Halderman said. The vulnerability could be exploited by someone with physical access or by someone who is able to remotely infect other systems that are connected to the internet if election workers then use USB sticks to bring data from an infected system into the election management system.

Several other particularly worrisome vulnerabilities could allow an attacker to forge cards used in the machines by technicians, giving the attacker access to a machine that would allow the software to be changed, Halderman said.

“Attackers could then mark ballots inconsistently with voters’ intent, alter recorded votes or even identify voters’ secret ballots,” Halderman said.

Halderman is an expert witness for the plaintiffs in a lawsuit originally filed in 2017 that targeted the outdated voting machines Georgia used at the time. The state bought the Dominion system in 2019, but the plaintiffs contend that the new system is also insecure. A 25,000-word report detailing Halderman’s findings was filed under seal in federal court in Atlanta last July.
U.S. District Judge Amy Totenberg, who’s overseeing the case, has expressed concern about releasing the report, worrying about the potential for hacking and the misuse of sensitive election system information. She agreed in February that the report could be shared with CISA, which promised to work with Halderman and Dominion to analyze potential vulnerabilities and then help jurisdictions that use the machines to test and apply any protections.

Halderman agrees that there’s no evidence the vulnerabilities were exploited in the 2020 election. But that wasn’t his mission, he said. He was looking for ways Dominion’s Democracy Suite ImageCast X voting system could be compromised. The touchscreen voting machines can be configured as ballot-marking devices that produce a paper ballot or record votes electronically.

In a statement, Dominion defended the machines as “accurate and secure.”

Dominion’s systems have been unjustifiably maligned by people pushing the false narrative that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump. Incorrect and sometimes outrageous claims by high-profile Trump allies prompted the company to file defamation lawsuits. State and federal officials have repeatedly said there’s no evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 election — and no evidence that Dominion equipment was manipulated to alter results.
Halderman said it’s an “unfortunate coincidence” that the first vulnerabilities in polling place equipment reported to CISA affect Dominion machines.

“There are systemic problems with the way election equipment is developed, tested and certified, and I think it’s more likely than not that serious problems would be found in equipment from other vendors if they were subjected to the same kind of testing,” Halderman said.

In Georgia, the machines print a paper ballot that includes a barcode — known as a QR code — and a human-readable summary list reflecting the voter’s selections, and the votes are tallied by a scanner that reads the barcode.

“When barcodes are used to tabulate votes, they may be subject to attacks exploiting the listed vulnerabilities such that the barcode is inconsistent with the human-readable portion of the paper ballot,” the advisory says. To reduce this risk, the advisory recommends, the machines should be configured, where possible, to produce “traditional, full-face ballots, rather than summary ballots with QR codes.”

The affected machines are used by at least some voters in at least 16 states, and in most of those places they are used only for people who can’t physically fill out a paper ballot by hand, according to a voting equipment tracker maintained by watchdog Verified Voting. But in some places, including all of Georgia, almost all in-person voting is on the affected machines.
Georgia Deputy Secretary of State Gabriel Sterling said the CISA advisory and a separate report commissioned by Dominion recognize that “existing procedural safeguards make it extremely unlikely” that a bad actor could exploit the vulnerabilities identified by Halderman. He called Halderman’s claims “exaggerated.”

Dominion has told CISA that the vulnerabilities have been addressed in subsequent software versions, and the advisory says election officials should contact the company to determine which updates are needed. Halderman tested machines used in Georgia, and he said it’s not clear whether machines running other versions of the software share the same vulnerabilities.

Halderman said that as far as he knows, “no one but Dominion has had the opportunity to test their asserted fixes.”

To prevent or detect the exploitation of these vulnerabilities, the advisory’s recommendations include ensuring voting machines are secure and protected at all times; conducting rigorous pre- and post-election testing on the machines as well as post-election audits; and encouraging voters to verify the human-readable portion on printed ballots.

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This story has been corrected to reflect that Tina Peters has been barred from overseeing this year’s election in her county, not from running for secretary of state.