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Security screen window coverings: Are they worth the cost?
April 30, 2019, 04:41 PM
RNshooterSecurity screen window coverings: Are they worth the cost?
https://www.securityscreenmast...PEAAYASAAEgK9LvD_BwEI am considering these for an upgrade to my home security. The demonstration was impressive and they are very handsome.
Would you buy them or buy a home with them installed? Are they worth the cost? Doing the whole house comes to about $17,000.
Hurricane proof, burglar proof, practically indestructible.
What says the hive mind?
Bruce
"The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams
“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli
The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken
April 30, 2019, 05:16 PM
4MUL8RMy LGS friend installed screens on his business windows and loves them.
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Trying to simplify my life...
April 30, 2019, 05:37 PM
ZSMICHAELNevada does not get many hurricanes.???
If something gives you peace of mind it is worth the cost. I would buy high end guns with that kind of money. LOL
April 30, 2019, 06:04 PM
trapper189Nothing a battery operated angle grinder can't cut through in 30 seconds.
April 30, 2019, 06:15 PM
12131quote:
Doing the whole house comes to about $17,000.
Hurricane proof, burglar proof, practically indestructible.
What says the hive mind?
Bruce
Hurricane proof? Regular windows are fine. Don't you have homeowner's insurance for hurricane damage? Anyway, in NV, it's a moot point, as said above.
Burglar proof and practically indestructible? Nothing is proof, if you have a professional trying to break in. And, the key word "practically" means it's
not indestructible.
Save your money.
Q
April 30, 2019, 08:35 PM
RNshooterHurricanes aren't a concern here. That's what the technology was originally developed for so the flying 2x4's are impressive.
Burglary and home invasion is a major concern, here.
Everyone has solar screens, here, and these look the same, until you try to get in.
I like the stealthiness of it. Burglar bars without the "I am in jail" look. Anything short of a cutting wheel or an acetaline torch will have a hard time.
What do you have to protect your windows from break in? Security film? Bars? Nothing?
Bruce
"The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams
“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli
The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken
April 30, 2019, 08:47 PM
PDRN, I’m seeing a pattern here with you. Maybe you need a setup like Will Smith in “I Am Legend”
Build a lab. Case of grenades. Armored shutters. Bleach your pathway to and from the front door.
April 30, 2019, 09:24 PM
12131quote:
What do you have to protect your windows from break in? Security film? Bars? Nothing?
Alarm, and one of these.
Q
April 30, 2019, 09:53 PM
goose5My company sells a few of these hurricane screens here in this part of the country. Extra security layer.
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April 30, 2019, 10:16 PM
RNshooterquote:
Originally posted by PD:
RN, I’m seeing a pattern here with you. Maybe you need a setup like Will Smith in “I Am Legend”
Build a lab. Case of grenades. Armored shutters. Bleach your pathway to and from the front door.
I am a worrier, this week
Bruce
"The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams
“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli
The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken
April 30, 2019, 10:23 PM
KenSFor that kind of money, you could almost replace all the windows with commercial grade aluminum windows with laminated glass. Even the lightest laminated glass would have to be chopped through with a hatchet.
Ken
April 30, 2019, 11:34 PM
jimmy123xMy neighbor has them and they make his house very dark inside as they block a lot of light.
You want better security, get PGT impact windows and upgrade the glass thickness to whatever thickness you want. The windows block a lot of heat, are impact resistant, much better against getting open, and much quieter. Even if someone shoots the glass, they’re still not getting through the heavy duty clear 1/16” thick plastic in between the glass. 5/16” glass is standard, I upgraded to 7/16 for not much more, but you can go as thick as 1 1/4” and they’re not much more than the crappy screens. Casement style also has a very strong latching system.
April 30, 2019, 11:56 PM
RNshooterThe screens I was looking at do not make the room dark. It's weird, how they are opaque from outside and almost clear, from inside. Almost a one way glass effect.
The PGT impact windows sound interesting. My windows are already 20 years old so replacement was a thought.
Any recommendations for where to price them?
Bruce
"The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams
“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli
The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken
May 01, 2019, 01:17 AM
jimmy123xA PGT dealer. I’ll give you approximates on what I paid. Normal say 36”x 48” casement window 7/16” glass was $700 installed. 5’x10’ 3 panel opening $2400, 3’x 10’ 3 panel opening $1200 installed. The windows are awesome, you can have someone with a weed eater at full tilt 10’ from the window and it sounds like it’s 300’ away it’s so quiet.
Single hung windows are about 1/2 the price of casement, horizontal roller 75% of casements, but casements have the best latching mechanisms and are the quietest.
Trust me, screens will darken the rooms, that is how they get their UV diminishing claims. They must as the screen blocks some light, clear or not.
Go on YouTube or google and search for impact window breakage tests, videos, they’re very impressive.
May 01, 2019, 04:34 AM
RNshooterNo PGT dealers within 100 miles. I will have to call them and see if it's even an option.
Bruce
"The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams
“It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free."
-Niccolo Machiavelli
The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken
May 01, 2019, 06:06 AM
trapper189The videos for these types of things are always impressive. They're selling you something. Remember the MasterLock commercials where a bullet is shot through the lock and the lock stays locked? It takes 5 seconds to cut through the shackle.
If I had $17,000 burning a hole in my pocket and I wanted to upgrade the security at my home:
1. Alarm system w/cellular monitoring and a loud siren.
2. Good locks like Hercular Mul-T-Lock with captive keys.
3. Camera system.
4. Exterior lights left on all night.
5. Locks on the garage doors.
6. A large dog or two.
7. Windows with impact glass.
May 01, 2019, 06:19 AM
ChuckFinleyThey will darken inside.
This will lower your mood when inside.
They will negatively impact the health of houseplants inside.
If they are dark enough to have the "one way glass" effect then you will have bird strikes and bird deaths.
Don't have to ask me how I know these things...
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May 01, 2019, 07:21 AM
Powers77We have had the solar screens as they were on the house when we bought it. Two things I really dislike would be true with the security screens as well.
1. They hold a lot of dust\dirt and are a PITA when you want to wash the windows. Have to be washed adding to a chore that I already hate.
2. They are harder to see out of,especially at night.
After 9 years the last time the wife wanted to wash windows I refused to reinstall them. She's on her own if she wants them back up.
Did I mention that they are a PITA?