Lake County Florida Barricaded Standoff - Officer Involved Shooting - Update

SIGforum

Lake County Florida Barricaded Standoff - Officer Involved Shooting - Update - Homeowner Killed

This topic can be found at:
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/320601935/m/6440010894

January 21, 2023, 08:47 PM

Lake County Florida Barricaded Standoff - Officer Involved Shooting - Update - Homeowner Killed

quote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
I was all wrong about this. I had interpreted "welfare check" to be a visit to determine if the occupant were still alive and well. I guess being 85 might bias me toward that position.

flashguy

You’re not being biased at all. That’s how I’ve always interpreted them as well.

January 21, 2023, 09:36 PM

ArtieS

quote:
Originally posted by kkina:
Is that your home at 2:11?

[FLASH_VIDEO]<iframe frameborder="0" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7CfRyKtfe34" title="YouTube video player" width="560"></iframe>[/FLASH_VIDEO]

No. I stay out of frame for both ground and air shots. I'm 1k yards from subject.

"I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation."

Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II.

January 21, 2023, 09:50 PM

Outnumbered

quote:
Originally posted by 41:
They did a wellness check on me Nov 13 and broke down two doors causing $4K damage. Fairfax County has refused to pay for the damage.

They could have gone through a ground floor window and caused $200 damage.

I’m sorry to hear about this, but hope/am glad that you’re OK!

Artie, sorry to hear about your neighbor. Regardless of what lead up to all that, it sounds like it sucks all around.

January 22, 2023, 07:23 AM

Mars_Attacks

quote:
Originally posted by 41:
They did a wellness check on me Nov 13 and broke down two doors causing $4K damage. Fairfax County has refused to pay for the damage.

They could have gone through a ground floor window and caused $200 damage.

This infuriates me.

January 22, 2023, 12:35 PM

Plugugly

"Explosives" could be road building stuff, weapons grade stuff, or the guy could have just enjoyed tannerite.

January 22, 2023, 01:02 PM

JonDaddy82

So far from what I'm seeing, I'm not a fan of the LE response. When arriving to the scene and discovering a crabby ass old white man, can't I just conclude the welfare check a success and move on? I would think the homeowner has the right to point a firearm at whomever is trespassing on his property. I'm from Central FL, people don't move to Lake County to be social butterflies.

January 22, 2023, 02:17 PM

HRK

quote:
Originally posted by RR:
quote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
I was all wrong about this. I had interpreted "welfare check" to be a visit to determine if the occupant were still alive and well. I guess being 85 might bias me toward that position.

flashguy

You’re not being biased at all. That’s how I’ve always interpreted them as well.

That would be my interpretation, having an 85 year old father that lives on his own, I've thought about having one done on a few occasions when he didn't answer his phone.

January 22, 2023, 02:36 PM

kkina

quote:
So far from what I'm seeing, I'm not a fan of the LE response. When arriving to the scene and discovering a crabby ass old white man, can't I just conclude the welfare check a success and move on? I would think the homeowner has the right to point a firearm at whomever is trespassing on his property. I'm from Central FL, people don't move to Lake County to be social butterflies.

Fair point, but just because the subject's alive does not necessarily mean they're OK. What if he was holding a firearm that he had originally planned to use on himself? It requires a bit more interaction to confirm the welfare check. (I personally know of a situation where the responding LEOs were about 5 seconds too late.)