Seriously.

For the natural resources, and physical security the land offers us.

We're already the world's baby sitters in so many ways anyway. Screw it. Just take them, and the Caribbean chain, too. Build large military bases wherever we like, move a bunch of people and military folks down there, and away we go, a bunch of new states, new markets, new land. Venezuela alone has all that Oil (we'd need the Saudis even less), and Colombia has all that Coca (fuck it - produce it large scale and sell it and make that $$ rather than spending $$$$ to fight it, and Mexico has tons of Silver and huge markets. We could stamp out the Cartels like it was batting practice, too, as a part of a military engagement. And we vet the Panama Canal Back. Huge strategic benefits.

Sorry Canada, and Mexico.

Screw the rest. It's crazy how they've remained sovereign this long.

No one, really, is in a position to stop us. We can drive to most parts of it... and most of their militarys are cute little things compared to ours. I bet we could take most of it without much fight. Most of their governments are jacked up anyway. We could legitimately improve the lives of millions and benefit more than we do now.

Who's with me?

Kurt Schlicter did an article about occupying northen Mexico

Is that James Monroe raising his hand in the back there...

I think Canada and Mexico should be last, fwiw. We scoop up all of the small ones, and box in Mexico (and for that matter Brazil and Argentina), then we move a bunch of troops to Alaska for a huge "exercise" then we squeeze Canada from top and bottom. They're all so polite anyway, we could give out Tim Horton's coffee and they might even welcome us in, then we surround Mexico with the Navy and Army, and choke them off as we roll into town.

Let's do it.

Do we really want to inherit all of the social problems of Latin America?

We’d be doing them a favor.

Ja, ve schtart mit der Sudetenland!

Lebensraum fur alles!

We'd be on the wrong side of history in about 10 seconds. Sorry, it's been tried before.

But it's fun to dream about it...

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:
Do we really want to inherit all of the social problems of Latin America?

That was the first thing I thought of also. What about infrastructure?

Their natural resources trump the problems, but they're too fucked up to use them properly so they never really get much better on their own.

I think it would be a huge net positive when all is said and done.

If I can be the Mayor of Fernie, BC, I'm in.

Interesting premise. Immediate military operations in Northern Mexico, specifically to target cartel groups and better secure our border?
"Clear and present danger".
I am all for it. Should have happened 10 years ago.
The rest of the toilets? Let them rot.
And not another cent of foreign aid money to any of them.

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:
Do we really want to inherit all of the social problems of Latin America?

That was the first thing I thought of also. What about infrastructure?

What infrastructure?

Central America should all be rich, between natural resources and a wonderful vacation paradise. Then add being in a key location for world commerce.
Instead they have corruption, poverty and crime.
Like many of the countries in the former British Empire, they wanted their freedom to run their own affairs and got it. Unfortunately it isn’t as easy as they thought.
A good lesson not learned, careful what you wish for.

There's some merit to simply taking Canada. Making them a non-voting territory. The only problem with taking Canada is that its full of Canadians that voted in Justin Trudeau's party. On second thought, let them stay North American Sweden. Mired in their own proud misery.

One thing I would seriously consider: given the needs to meet US military recruiting goals with FIT individuals, I would consider allowing Canadian prior service members to serve in the US military in exchange for dual citizenship and veterans benefits after an honorable enlistment. Canadian veterans seem to be treated like crap by their ultra-liberal government, and the US is suffering from a shrinking pool of folks able to serve in the military because they are too fat.

We could probably have annexed the whole of Mexico after the Mexican War, but didn't. It's Polk's fault. But that time window has long closed.

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Dumb idea.

Let's put a fucking McDonald's, a Home Depot, and a Super Walmart in every big-ish town from here to Cusco, resorts from San Diego all the way down the West coast to Lima and beyond. Freeway and rail from here all the way across the Panama Canal and to Bolivia.

Declare the Sea of Cortez a nature sanctuary and carefully build up the infrastructure around both sides of it, turning it into world class resorts and oceanic research (the Sea of Cortez is the most diverse and interesting spot anywhere near us, and rare in general).

Beat the Russians (or Chinese) to the punch in Venezuela, snatch that oil, just plant a US flag on the entire country's reserves and capacity, build an enormous AFB there, a big new Naval base or two between here and there, surrounded by resorts / restaurants / bars.

And all of that wilderness in Canada... Damn.

Mexico City would be a pain in the balls. But imagine the infrastructure jobs, from here to Bolivia. Rather than build the wall, let's just take all of the neighboring lands and - surprise - NOT be crazy about it. Root out the corruption, enforce basic law and order, utilities, etc.

We'll all be better off, (continental)-Americans. Think of all the extra State Parks and National Parks, the sea ports, the enormous chunk of land, from the Bearing Straight to the Panama Canal and southward. Those people need our help. So let's help them, and us.

Fuck 'em. Who's gonna stop us?

Red, white, and blue dawn?

Remember WWII, when the world rallied to defeat the Axis? Yes I know it was to a very large degree us, but imagine the combined efforts Russia and China, as well as the rest of the outraged world?

Then there is all of the central and South Americans adept at revolution. And outraged people in our own country that thanks to the Second Amendment are very well armed.

One way or another, win or lose, it would be the end of America.

Yes, lets annex half the western hemisphere, take away the national sovereignty of dozens of countries, exploit their resources for our own gain, and not let them have a say in any of it. Sounds like a fantastic way to become Bad Guys, just ad some skulls to our outfits to really solidify that position.

No, this is a bad idea, that would just lead to another hundred years of war and terrorism. Not even those "polite" Canadians would have a problem greasing our boys should we decide to goose step into Ottawa.

Annex canuckistan, conquer mexico