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Religion and property tax
September 05, 2021, 07:51 PM
oldbill123Religion and property tax
I say it is long past time that religious institutions start paying property taxes. Maybe an idea everyone can support
September 05, 2021, 08:02 PM
Rick LeeAnd income taxes too. What happened to "equal protection under the law?"
September 05, 2021, 08:39 PM
airsoft guyHow about we go the other way, and start eroding some taxes? Like fuck those shitbags need more of our money.
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September 05, 2021, 08:40 PM
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BlackTalonJHPI'm for lower taxation and small government so I don't agree. Although you wouldn't have to twist my arm much to see 501(c)5 repealed. That's one thing that might actually make a difference.
September 05, 2021, 08:50 PM
stickman428You want to give more money to .gov to mismanage? How much $$$ did they blow to arm people in far away lands while calling our semi autos “weapons of war” and talking about restricting the 2A because of “gun violence”.
F that
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September 05, 2021, 08:57 PM
BBMWThe two issues aren't necessarily related, but usually end up being. Congress could cut tax rates, while eliminating exemptions for certain types of organizations. But I bet that's not how it would work out,
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You want to give more money to .gov to mismanage? How much $$$ did they blow to arm people in far away lands while calling our semi autos “weapons of war” and talking about restricting the 2A because of “gun violence”.
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September 05, 2021, 08:59 PM
220-9erquote:
Originally posted by Rick Lee:
And income taxes too. What happened to "equal protection under the law?"
Or separation of church and state.
Taxing all sorts of groups doesn't have to mean raising more tax in total. Just keep the spending the same (or lower is better) add the extra income from those sources to the kitty and lower the tax millage rate for everyone.
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September 05, 2021, 09:06 PM
nukeandpaveIf they paid their share, we wouldnt have to keep paying it for them.
September 05, 2021, 10:36 PM
kimber1911Perhaps Churches should bill the Government for the services they provide to society.
Perhaps coming into a gun forum and not discussing much about guns, just attacking religion should be frowned upon.
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“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 September 05, 2021, 10:45 PM
nhtagmemberI don’t believe that churches should be tax exempt. Let them raise money and pay taxes line everyone else.
September 05, 2021, 11:00 PM
mcrimmIf churches were taxed, how many would actually have tax liability. I’m not talking property taxes. By the time a church deducted depreciation on buildings, welfare costs, missionary costs, occupancy costs, etc, I wonder what their taxable income would be.
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chellim1Christianity thrived when truly persecuted. I’m not opposed to real estate not being exempt but then no real estate should be exempt. Also, many churches run schools. Real estate taxes primarily benefit public schools. This could further disadvantage religious schools relative to government schools.
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alptraumI'd definitely vote for removing their tax exemptions.
September 06, 2021, 01:10 AM
sigmonkeyPeople pay tax on income, then donate that taxed income to the church, so the church then pays taxes on that already taxed income, where that income has not earned any profit?
Hmmm..... Not sure I can see supporting that.
I do not attend any church, but the things I do see churches involved in, compared to the government.
One taking all of our money by force of law, and the other by the will of those who choose to give.
And the absolute criminal behavior in mismanaging the money, the power and what not, compared to the one that seems to be doing more that benefits than harms people.
Are we simply focusing on something we can shake our fists at and maybe inflict some pain, rather than standing up to the one that does us damage?
Just wondering, why?
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12131Yeah, it seems like some folks just want to focus their displeasure on the churches, wanting them to pay, instead of directing their anger where it belongs, the scumbags and criminals that are in control of the US government. You guys want these assholes to have more money to waste?
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September 06, 2021, 02:43 AM
oldbill123What I want is to form my own church, classify my home as it's office, and stop paying property taxes.
But, I think I would go to jail
September 06, 2021, 06:31 AM
kimber1911All sorts of fraudulent “non-profit” organizations, yet you want to focus on Churches.
Why is that?
I think your issue is religion and not taxes, is it not?
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“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 September 06, 2021, 06:36 AM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by oldbill123:
Maybe an idea everyone can support
Not even close. What an absolutely horrible idea.
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September 06, 2021, 06:56 AM
DennisMquote:
Originally posted by oldbill123:
posted September 05, 2021 07:51 PM
I say it is long past time that religious institutions start paying property taxes. Maybe an idea everyone can support
Wild guess: Sunday post-dinner drinking at the oldbill123 house begins at around 7:21 PM, yes?
And no, I can't support the idea.