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Originally posted by HRK:

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With the automatic in my Honda Ridgeline I can't select and hold 1st gear for say crawling up a rutted dirt road, or holding back going down a very steep grade, or in snow...... only "L" which is both 1st and 2nd.

Well if you wanted it to drive like a pickup truck you should have gotten a real pickup truck

Just kidding with you, thing is those vehicles are more street transport utility vehicles than pickup hence the cvt drive train.

Not that they can't do double duty but they do provide more of a passenger SUV/Car type drive train, and that makes sense in that most pickups today are used as grocery getters than the truck use they were designed for anyway...

I would have preferred a manual transmission in my pick up but tell me what pick up has one, other than two versions of Toyota Tacoma? No GM, Ford, Nissan, or even Dodge. My Ridgeline's transmission is a conventional 6-speed auto not a CVT, the newer ones have a 9-speed. I doubt any pick up has a CVT other than possibly Ford's new Maverick. My Ridgeline gets used as a truck more than most pick ups, it's seldom driven with nothing in the bed be it: gas/diesel cans, bags of garbage, bicycles, motorcycle, firewood, gravel, brush, kayak, or tow one of my trailers behind, and it's perfect for all this. When I want to drive w/o carrying much I take the Corolla 6-speed.

Our 1998 F150 farm truck is a stick. My wife much prefers it over my 2010 F150 with automatic.

I learned to drive on sticks, a "three on a tree". had numerous vehicles over the years with 3 pedals. Alas, they are a rapidly dying breed.

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Originally posted by 1s1k:
These threads always turn out the same way. Everyone waxing eloquently about the manual but haven't bought one in 20 years.

Wrong. Two weeks ago I put a deposit on a new one. Toyota unveils it tonight. GR Corolla. I’ll take delivery of it next year. Well unless it doesn’t get the Torsen front and rear LSD’s. If that is the case it’ll be a 6MT GR86 or upcoming 6MT Supra.

My last was a 2017 Focus RS, before that 2012 JSW Diesel 6MT, 2008 STi, 2007 Civic Si, 2005 S2000…… in the last 20 years, 8 of them. If a manual has been offered, I’ve always bought a manual. I’ve had 3 automatics in 30+ years. All 3 of those, manual wasn’t offered, two were trucks. I did have a DCT choice for one of my sportbikes, I wasn’t having it and bought the manual version anyway.

I still prefer DA/SA over strikers too.

I vividly remember learning to drive in a 1950 Ford pickup. 3 on the Tree, manual steering and manual brakes. Not power steering and brakes.

It was a real bitch learning to coordinate my legs and arms working the clutch and brake and gas pedal and shifting the manual tranny 3 on the tree while staying on the roadway and not in the ditch or across the centerline on those old country roads.

That was upshifting. Then learning to downshift and drive was the next real bitch to master.

That was with my older brother as my teacher, and it sucked.

Then I got to Drivers Ed my freshman year of school. The local car dealer loaned dealer demos to the school and we had a very good teacher. It was awesome then. Big assed early 1970's full sized Pontiac and Buick 4 door land yachts with 455 cubic inch engines with Quadrajet carbs. Nice air conditioning, power steering and power brakes, auto trans, so much more comfortable to drive than a buckin' road wandering worn out piece of crap old pickup truck. The Drivers Ed cars were smooth quiet and powerful and a pleasure to drive and made learning a pleasure.

I don't think Drivers Ed is offered much anymore, and I think that's one reason I see so many people driving like idiots.
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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
If that is the case it’ll be a 6MT GR86 or upcoming 6MT Supra.

My last was a 2017 Focus RS, before that 2012 JSW Diesel 6MT, 2008 STi, 2007 Civic Si, 2005 S2000…… in the last 20 years, 8 of them. If a manual has been offered, I’ve always bought a manual. I’ve had 3 automatics in 30+ years. All 3 of those, manual wasn’t offered, two were trucks. I did have a DCT choice for one of my sportbikes, I wasn’t having it and bought the manual version anyway.

Don't get me going on lists. This thread got me making a mental list of all the manual transmission vehicles I've owned (mid teens) plus my 14 overseas rentals. In the interest of site resources I won't print it here.

My most interesting one though was a 1986 F150 with the I-6 engine and 4 on the floor only it was actually a 3-speed plus a super low creeper gear for first which you rarely used since you had to upshift almost immediately.

With mild foot neuropathy, I buy automatic transmissions these days as a necessity. Before the neuropathy, I bought automatic transmission cars since 1998 as a of matter preference. Understanding how to drive a manual transmission car is a good life skill to have just in case but not something I especially enjoy doing.

I learned to drive a stickshift on the column of our old early 60s Ford farm truck when I was ten, which made waiting until 16 to get my license really tough. My first car, a 66 Chevy Impala was just like the Ford, and my first new car was a 4 on the floor (center console, really). When we married, my wife liked an automatic so we switched over, but when I bought a used Honda Accord a few years later, it was a five speed manual. She got used to it quickly and liked it a lot until she tired of the car some years later. My daughters never became proficient with it when they had their learners’ permits, so we switched to an automatic and haven’t looked back.

3 on the tree / 4 on the floor / and with manual splitter switches on shifter for low/high range rear axle ............. back in the day it was fun to get a driver behind the wheel of a orginal style manual VW"beetle bug" who supposidly could drive a manual and the first thing they had to do was to find and engage "reverse" gear ........................................ drill sgt.

Been driving stick from the beginning. Took my road test in one, too. Taught one of my two sons on a standard; other son wasn't interested.

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Originally posted by ridewv:

I would have preferred a manual transmission in my pick up but tell me what pick up has one, other than two versions of Toyota Tacoma? No GM, Ford, Nissan, or even Dodge. My Ridgeline's transmission is a conventional 6-speed auto not a CVT, the newer ones have a 9-speed. I doubt any pick up has a CVT other than possibly Ford's new Maverick. My Ridgeline gets used as a truck more than most pick ups, it's seldom driven with nothing in the bed be it: gas/diesel cans, bags of garbage, bicycles, motorcycle, firewood, gravel, brush, kayak, or tow one of my trailers behind, and it's perfect for all this. When I want to drive w/o carrying much I take the Corolla 6-speed.

Taco and Gladiator are it, btw just funnin with you on the Ridgeline/Maverick/Kia Pickup, they are marketed to more suburban/city dweller lowes and ace hardware used than anything else, get good mileage.

Basically if you want a stick, Taco and Jeep, Nissans Frontier had one, up til now, it's gone
if you could find one from 2020 maybe...

My Citroën DS-21 had a four speed manual transmission, but there was no clutch pedal.

I've owned several manual transmission cars/trucks. My kids learned how to drive on a 2006 Honda CRV with a manual transmission. I drove up to St Louis from Memphis to buy it. Both kids still driving a manual, my son in a 2016 Mustang and my daughter a 2010 Acura TSX. I flew to Houston to buy the Acura and drove to Atlanta to buy the Mustang. Both brand new. Don't have one now but have been looking for a rear wheel drive sports car with a manual for a couple of years now, should have pulled the trigger a few years ago on a left over 2016 Porsche Cayman up in Omaha. Just try finding a new Porsche these days with a manual. Last July I put a deposit on a production slot on a 911S so I could order it with a manual but my chances of ever seeing seem to have sunk in the Atlantic with that car carrier ship

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My Citroën DS-21 had a four speed manual transmission, but there was no clutch pedal.

x 100.

If you cant drive stick your out of luck on this. They only made 6 speeds.

^^^ Love the sound of the SRT-10. A symphony of cylinders.

You wouldn't believe what the factory shop manual involves for a wheel alignment.

Learned on a stick 3-on-the-tree. The big deal then was "four on the floor" which made you one of the cool guys with multipole chicks in your car. Sadly, I as the 3-on-the-tree guy driving my parents car when they would let me. So chick-ish had to be attained other ways. The chess club netted some horny girls as I remember.

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Originally posted by .38supersig:
^^^ Love the sound of the SRT-10. A symphony of cylinders.

You wouldn't believe what the factory shop manual involves for a wheel alignment.

it depends on what year it is for me. Most of them sound like a UPS truck. There was so many complaints that they eventually changed the firing order which helped it immensely.

If you want to hear an awesome sounding Viper look up Sneaky Snake on YouTube. His car is a 9 liter stroker and it sounds absolutely beastly even backing out of the garage.

I'm technically a millennial and until 3 years ago, had only driven autos. I decided I wanted a little more fun so bought a Mazda3 6 speed in '19 and by now put around 45k miles on it. It is fun and engaging every single time I get in. Wouldn't mind a little more oomph behind the pedal but a stick shift is just entertaining to drive. Hitting the shift perfectly is something I get excited about still 3 years later haha.

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Originally posted by NavyGuy:
Learned on a stick 3-on-the-tree. The big deal then was "four on the floor" which made you one of the cool guys with multipole chicks in your car. Sadly, I as the 3-on-the-tree guy driving my parents car when they would let me. So chick-ish had to be attained other ways. The chess club netted some horny girls as I remember.

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Originally posted by .38supersig:
^^^ Love the sound of the SRT-10. A symphony of cylinders.

You wouldn't believe what the factory shop manual involves for a wheel alignment.

it depends on what year it is for me. Most of them sound like a UPS truck. There was so many complaints that they eventually changed the firing order which helped it immensely.

If you want to hear an awesome sounding Viper look up Sneaky Snake on YouTube. His car is a 9 liter stroker and it sounds absolutely beastly even backing out of the garage.

Who told you that? As a viper owner for 20 years I've never heard such nonsense