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safe & sound |
Forgery? Fraud? Something else? What say you? Last year during all of this Covid nonsense, our school started sending children home with a "quarantine order". This is on the health department's letterhead, and states:
I had a conversation (which I recorded) with the Superintendent who explained that the health department was really busy, so that the school would get a list from the health department every morning, fill out these letters at the school, and send students home. When I contacted the health department (via e-mail) they responded with:
And even more recently:
So according to the health department they were not quarantining anybody, yet the school is sending out letters, on the health department's letterhead saying that these kids were quarantined "per the health department". In return, our school district of roughly 1,500 students received ESSR funds totally approximately $2,500,000 for "following the guidance" of the state agencies which included all of these "quarantine" rules in their published mitigation strategies. Certainly seems questionable to me, but does it rise to any sort of criminality? | ||
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Freethinker |
I’m not very familiar with the (possibly) relevant statutes, but maybe falsification of public records—? ► 6.4/93.6 “ Enlightenment is man’s emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one’s own understanding without another’s guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one’s own mind without another’s guidance.” — Immanuel Kant | |||
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Green grass and high tides |
i don't know. But your post about only testing unvaxxed kids has me thinking there is a crime or at the very least a discrimination suit. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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Member |
Depending on the jurisdiction in which this occurred, impersonating a govt official comes to mind, however, you would have to read the statute to see if what you are describing meets the elements of the crime. The other thing that came to mind is, are these "quarantine orders" being used to show a false need for infrastructure and other improvements to get additional government funding. If that is a yes, then that takes it into the realm of possible fraud, and depending on how the funding was requested, could be fraud against the US Govt, in that case US Dept of Education would have jurisdiction. See the bottom of the link for more info: https://oese.ed.gov/offices/ed...ergency-relief-fund/ | |||
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safe & sound |
We are not the only ones who are thinking it's discrimination: https://okcfox.com/news/local/...hool-quarantine-rule
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Member |
In some states recording an individual absent consent is a felony. | |||
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safe & sound |
100% true. He even asked if I was recording the conversation, and I told him no. Missouri is a single party consent state, so only one party of the conversation has to be aware of, and approve the recording of a conversation. If any of what the school did is even leaning towards a criminal act, I would like to put together the evidence and forward that to the appropriate parties. | |||
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Don't Panic |
It may be worth your investigating what the guidance actually requires. If what the school district did was what was recommended, then they would have qualified for the grants, and your beef would be with the state agencies, rather than the district. | |||
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safe & sound |
The certainly followed the guidance, although I disagree with it. Seems that courts are starting to disagree with it too. My broader point was that seem to have misrepresented, to the public, the authority to punish these children for profit. Let's assume I did something similar. What if I sent a competing business "quarantine orders" on the health department letterhead? Their employees can't work and I get the extra business. Surely somebody would take issue with that. And what if a friend of mine at the health department provided me with their letterhead and told me it was OK to do so long as it was me writing it up and not them? | |||
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Freethinker |
If I were the investigator of the complaint the two issues I would be looking at are the school’s misrepresentation of where the letter originated and the false claim about what the health department mandated. That’s two separate misstatements of fact and because both the school (I assume it’s not a private institution) and the health department are public governmental entities is the reason for my original opinion. But although many people evidently believe that any sort of “discrimination” is against some law or another, that’s simply not true. What the laws I’m familiar with target are certain specific types of discrimination and discrimination on the basis of specific reasons such as “race” or religious preference. Unless there is a specific statute outlawing discrimination on the basis of apparel, for example, a business could refuse to serve anyone wearing a “MAGA” hat—and some do. And even though there are laws pertaining to discrimination on the basis of religious belief, that applies only to certain specific situations. A person may legally refuse to vote for an atheist or Catholic or Muslim for public office on that basis alone—and countless do. That’s discrimination pure and simple that would generally be prohibited if it were the basis for refusing restaurant service. Sometimes the courts will expand the “unfairness” idea to issues that aren’t specifically covered by statute or prior case law, and often times people decry that “judicial activism,” but there’s no guarantee of that or that a local court’s ruling won’t be overturned on appeal. ► 6.4/93.6 “ Enlightenment is man’s emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one’s own understanding without another’s guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one’s own mind without another’s guidance.” — Immanuel Kant | |||
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