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I have a friend who came from Brazil and is a permanent resident alien, and who is well on his way to becoming one of us. Is it legal for me to sell him a firearm? This would be a private sale, of course. An online search produced vague and ambiguous results. | ||
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Yes I think green card holders can legally purchase and own firearms. | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
I thought it was not legal for a non citizen to own a firearm. Thought they had to be a citizen. Back in 2004-ish, while in the navy, had a Filipina become a citizen and a 9mm was the first thing she went to purchase Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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Political Cynic |
yes, green card holders are allowed to own the same schedule of firearms as citizens I had 4 pistols and 2 rifles while I had a green card [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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Even in NY. I did a couple pistol transfers for a customer while he was still an Italian citizen. | |||
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Yes Green Card Permanent Residents have all the 2nd Amendment Rights as a normal citizen. We migrated down from Canada and other than voting there wasn't any difference. I'm a Naturalized Citizen now. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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Green Card holders (aka Pernament Residents) have the same rights and obligations as US Citizens, except that they cannot Vote. They pay taxes, social security, etc like everyone else. They have the same rights as a citizen as far as firearms are concerned. When filling out a 4473, you answer NO to the citizenship question but you have to list your Alien number (usually on the back of the green card; it looks like A# XXX-XXX-XXX) If it were me:I would ask for the DL and the A# number and have them sign a statement that they are not prohibited from possessing a firearm. They are supposed to have the card on them at all times as it must be produced if law enforcement asks for it. | |||
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posting without pants |
Yes. If you look at the form 4473 it asks if you are citizen or perm. Resident. Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." | |||
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It was never clarified with respect to gun purchase, but at first my wife received a 'Provisional Permanent Resident' card for the 1st 2 years were were married (I'm not sure of the title/wording - only .gov could create a TEMPORARY PERMANENT status with a straight face). I was told that she could not purchase firearms with that status & she was told not to apply for a carry permit by an IN sheriff. We didn't push it or verify that they were correct. She bought a gun just fine a week after she got her citizenship (a year ago yesterday). | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Yes. Perfectly legal. My wife is a permanent resident with a green card and will soon even be getting her concealed carry permit. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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No problem in hand gun acquisition for permanent visa holders; green card is just a permanent stay visa, permanent being as long as the govt. allows you to stay. His NICS check should take the normal time - it did in my case before I acquired my citizenship. Now, depending upon state law, he may or may not be able to acquire a CCW. Oregon requires you to be a U.S. citizen, or have proof you are getting your U.S. citizenship in the next 6 months. And, Green card holders do not have all the rights a U.S. citizen has. Can't serve as a commissioned officer in the military, no federal jobs for you, and some other things, in addition to not legally voting. Gets interesting if you have a parent and/or friends for security clearances too. -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master. Ayn Rand "He gains votes ever and anew by taking money from everybody and giving it to a few, while explaining that every penny was extracted from the few to be giving to the many." Ogden Nash from his poem - The Politician | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
The 4473 has several questions related to citizenship. The instructions say permanent residents don't have to provide additional information as non-permanent resident aliens. Elsewhere on the web from a supposed Firearms trainer says: Link
This seems most reasonable. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
No one has a right to do those things. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Yes, legal permanent residents can own firearms. If is legal for you to sell him one (assuming face-to-face transfers are legal in Georgia, you have no reason to believe the person is prohibited).
No longer the case. BATFE did away with this about 7 years ago. See instructions on the 4473, Rev October 2016.
Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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I had an employee when I managed an armored car operations here in Georgia who here on a refugee visa (political asylum). She was able to purchase a firearm. So know issues at the state level either, at least none a decade ago. "When in danger or in doubt, run in circles scream and shout" R.I.P. R.A.H. Ooga Chakka Hooga Hooga Ooga Chakka Hooga Hooga NRA Basic Rifle Instructor Red Cross First Aid/CPR/AED Adult/Child/Infant Instructor Red Cross Wilderness First Aid Instructor | |||
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Yep. I just transferred a COLT AR15 to a Texas resident permanent legal alien. Some additional data needed to be entered in NICS E-Check and the magic 'PROCEED' came back in 12 hours. The funny thing is that this person works for the federal government on classified assignment. “Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.” – Barack Hussein Obama, January 23, 2009 | |||
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| Be not wise in thine own eyes  |
So, I would assume the same applies for supressors, short barrel rifles, any other weapon, and full autos. Correct? Especially if they are a green card holder from Britain, after all they invented the tax stamp, did they not.This message has been edited. Last edited by: kimber1911, “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Alienator |
Permanent residents are allowed to buy and sell. My wife is from Taiwan, has her green card, and also her CCW. SIG556 Classic P220 Carry SAS Gen 2 SAO SP2022 9mm German Triple Serial P938 SAS P365 FDE Psalm 118:24 "This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it" | |||
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| Be not wise in thine own eyes |
SIG4EVA, are there any restrictions on purshase of tax stamp items that you know of for your wife? “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Yes, I know for a fact that greencard holders can own any Title I firearms. My wife is a green card holder. blindref on here has sold her many pistols. I don't know about Title II devices, though. | |||
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