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I just had it happen with AT&T. I contacted AT&T online and it was determined the call was fraudulent. Fortunately I was in a meeting and it went to voice mail so I had a chance to listen to it a few times and it didn't sound right.

I once got a scam call from my own number.

This was what happened to my handyman recently. The number showed up as the one on the back of his card. Scammer told him his account has been compromised, and they needed his password to fix things. So, he made the fatal mistake and was cleaned out to a tune of almost $3k. I told him one must never give out sensitive info to anyone over the phone, no matter how legit it appears. He said, but the number was legit from his bank. Well, now you know it was scammer, I told him. Lucky for him, after all was said and done, the bank let him have his money back, although imo, they didn't have to.

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Yes this happened to me from us bank
Best thing to always do is call the bank or cc number yourself

Yes. Spammers can and do spoof legitimate numbers.

I get at dozens of calls everyday and most of them are from the same groups: life insurance, medicare, accident claims. They use different legitimate phone numbers. They even use my phone number to call other people. I've had text or calls from people saying they're returning my call. I tell them it was a scammer spoofing my number.

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Originally posted by 12131:
This was what happened to my handyman recently. The number showed up as the one on the back of his card. Scammer told him his account has been compromised, and they needed his password to fix things. So, he made the fatal mistake and was cleaned out to a tune of almost $3k. I told him one must never give out sensitive info to anyone over the phone, no matter how legit it appears. He said, but the number was legit from his bank. Well, now you know it was scammer, I told him. Lucky for him, after all was said and done, the bank let him have his money back, although imo, they didn't have to.

He needs to learn no one in any legitimate institution that will interface with them has no access to his password nor do they need to. I think all financial institutions, if you need a validation number sent to your phone, has a message with the number to never give it out.

It's sad but people fall for it. I was behind a guy in Walgreens who was buying iTune cards. And I just jokingly said, that's for an indian lawyer who called you about bailing out your nephew? And he said, yes. The clerk and I told him it has all the earmarks of a scam. But he was confident and he said the indian lawyer is the only indian lawyer he trusts in the whole world. I tried.

It's actually EXTREMELY easy to do.
Access to a simple VOIP server allows you to note anything down as your own caller ID.

Years ago I used to work on those things and during testing one day just for grins I put my friends phone number as the caller ID.
Then I called her.
She got freaked out and sent me to voicemail.
However since she had no VM password setup, it just let me right on in since I was calling from her number.
Was a learning experience for both of us lol.

If the Telecoms really didn't want this to happen, they would stop it. You can't tell me it's impossible.

VOIP was thought of as a great thing - free - just like email. Now we have spam calls just like spam email. Hard to believe people actually work at these fraudulent call centers scamming people. Most of the calls I get have Indian accents. I tend not to answer unknown numbers, but on my business phone it might be someone legit that I don't have in my contacts. Biggest risk is my elderly mother, and I've told her over and over what not to do. But sooner or later I fear she will give it info and then I will have to clean up the mess. I've had to clean up a lot of messes in the past 10 years and it doesn't get any better.

These are the reasons why i enjoyed “Beekeeper”, the movie.

In Argentina, one of the main TV newscast has a section where they report daily current scams.
In each and every case, the victim was scammed because trust was abused and thescammer sounded legit.
While they always make it sound like the bank is responsible or should share the damage, what is said or omitted shows that the victim was duped and voluntarily gave up the goods, knowingly or not.
Yesterday it was a company’s CPA that received a call from the bank reporting there were unusual movements going on. The CPA was using the account and the company got cleaned for $100k in less than a minute. 25 different operations. Not humanly possible.

Banks don’t keep an eye on your accounts nor they call you when shit happens. My sister’s CC info was stolen and abused and i only noticed when the thief emptied the bank account, months later. Too stupid to cover his tracks. Was the building’s Super.
Made him an offer he couldn’t refuse and i recovered most of the money.

The female CPA looked like the cat who ate the canary.

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Originally posted by braillediver:
I once got a scam call from my own number.

Same thing happened to me once.

Helpful Hint (would have been more helpful a few days ago): Scam attacks are most prevalent, IMO, just before a holiday weekend as the scammers know the bank will be closed on Monday following and it gives them more time before you can go in and shut it down.

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Originally posted by braillediver:
I once got a scam call from my own number.

I had the same thing happen just a couple months ago.

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Originally posted by 0-0:
These are the reasons why i enjoyed “Beekeeper”, the movie.

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I really enjoyed that movie! “Protect the hive”!

Yeah, the fuckers know every trick in the book to separate your from your money.

I had an email from eBay yesterday saying I had an "offer" on something I was selling. Looked solid EXCEPT that the offer was valid for SEVEN MINUTES. eBay don't work that way folks.

RMD

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Originally posted by braillediver:
I once got a scam call from my own number.

I had that a couple of years ago too.

Caller ID, basicallym has no security mechnisms attached to it. It isn't just VoIP, all telephony services are vulnerable to this. It is just with VoIP, the caller has more control since he "owns the switch." There are many instances reported over the last Century where Telco employees used their access to CO switches to set the Caller ID as they wished for deceptive purposes.

VoIP is an enabling technology that makes it possible to provide telephony services at a far lower cost (both startup and ongoing) than traditional voice services, not to mention the far greated array of features it can provide. It isn't evil, just inexpensive.

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Is it possible for scammers to call you, and your caller ID shows a legit number

Definitely. The spoofed number shown is under their control.

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Originally posted by braillediver:

I once got a scam call from my own number.

I got one of those last week. I didn't feel like talking to me, so I didn't answer the call. I checked later, and found that I had not left a voicemail message for me.

I had this happen to me. They actually had a scary amount of info about me and the card they were calling about. The number they called from was the same as on the back of the card. Full and total scam, and I knew it at the time. I tried to keep them on the line for a while, figured if they were wasting my time, they weren't scamming someone else. They called back several times, I think they thought they had a live one! The card was subsequently compromised (about a year later, IIRC).

Think of it as one way communication like mailing a letter. You can put any return address you want on the envelope but you will never get the letter back. Same as the phone calls. They are relying on you to answer the first call without question.