The Collapse of the Never-Trump Conservatives

June 30, 2018, 08:25 AM

erj_pilot

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Yup...if memory serves, Mr. Trump, at the time of the campaigns, said something about Mr. Cruz's wife, I believe. That started a minor shit-storm, but I think the two settled it like men and moved forward. A concept lost on MANY in our government...and in life, really.

"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24

June 30, 2018, 08:28 AM

XinTX

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Yup...if memory serves, Mr. Trump, at the time of the campaigns, said something about Mr. Cruz's wife, I believe. That started a minor shit-storm, but I think the two settled it like men and moved forward. A concept lost on MANY in our government...and in life, really.

And something the Texas Tea Party should also learn. If Ted can put it behind them, they should as well. I also seem to recall they went after Ted's dad a bit as well. But Ted's dad was also smart enough to shrug it off for what it was.

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“The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” Ayn Rand

“If we relinquish our rights because of fear, what is it exactly, then, we are fighting for?” Sen. Rand Paul

June 30, 2018, 09:18 AM

JALLEN

Like Truman said, “if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”

I remember a program some years ago, at the Bush 41 Library in College Station, a discussion between Bush 41 and Ted Kennedy. President Bush read some quotes spoken by Sen. Kennedy about Bush, really nasty, mean, hard hitting, and Kennedy was wincing as he heard each one. Yet, there they were, up there jovial, friendly, laughingly putting on this program like old buddies.

We’ve seen that between the Clintons and Bushs as well, friendly, at least in public, cooperative.

There are two lessons here. I’m not sure which one is more apt.

One, if you don’t have a very thick skin, you may be in the wrong business, and probably won’t be in elective office very long, if ever.

Two, politics may be a real life version of pro wrestling, where once you have shown you have the chops, you are accepted as a performer, assigned a character, and read into scripts, with the right holds, throws, hollering anguish or triumph, donning the costume, playing the part, spooling up the crowd. After the show, you remove the costumes and make up, and all go out for drinks. Nobody takes it personally in the real game. Only the public and the sports writers weep and wail over the various scenes of the “big show.”

Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown

July 01, 2018, 08:28 AM

sig2392

Tip O'Neil was the best at this.

I’ve known personally every president since Jack Kennedy and I can honestly say that Ronald Reagan was the worst. But, he’d have made a hell of a king.”

About his relationship with Reagan, who was president for much of the time that O’Neill was Speaker. O’Neill used to say that although they clashed during the day, they were great friends after 6 p.m., prompting Reagan to answer the phone with “Tip, is it after 6 p.m.?”

Tip would fight with anyone and then they would go have drinks and cigars.