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So I'm no stranger to Martial Arts. Kempo as a kid for few years. Dabbled in Thai Boxing for around a year. Rolled a few times back then. (18 Years +/- ago)

I've been studying Aikido for about the last 15+ years. After my son was born x5 years ago I gave up my teaching slot on Monday nights. But continued to train 1-2 times a week. Life happens and I slipped to 1 a week. Then my Dojo is moving twice as far away from me. 30 minutes with no traffic. Guess what? In Atlanta there is NEVER "No Traffic".

I've decided to strap on the white belt again and start from scratch on a new journey. I've caught the Jiu-Jitsu bug a little. I'm swinging through a dojo for a class on Monday. I'll look for all the classic things I've told others to look for. Are people having fun. Are people there just to crank & hurt each other. Pedigree of the instructor. Etc.

What would you look for in a new Jiu-Jitsu school?

Here's a link to the instructors Bio for any that are curious : Sifu/Guro Alan Baker

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I picked a school and started training about 7 months ago.
My biggest decision points were this:
1) Do they have a solid instructor for the classes you plan to attend? The guy with his name on the window isn't as important as who you will actually be training with.
2) Could I get a good look at the other students? Not just one class but a weeks worth of classes gave me a better feel for who I would be rolling with.
3) Do they offer any 'fundamentals' classes? These dojos are a commercial enterprise so they are mixing higher belts and lower to keep the cash flowing, but a separate time once or twice a week set aside for fundamentals/beginners is a real bonus.
4) depending on your age - I'm a bit older - you may want to look for a place with a few guys who are closer to your age. Not everyone is looking to get into the UFC and wants to crush every opponent every time they roll.


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You'll find that. jui-jitsu is quite similar to aikido.

Aiki-do is more about "the way" than the application, whereas by definition, "jitsu" is all about the application.

In reality, it all depends on who presents it, and how it's received.

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Back in the day, we incorporated it into our training style as taught to us by another Federation Master, he trained CIA operatives. I loved it and it flowed with the judo we also incorporated. Lots of joint lock and hand pinning, throwing and follow up with joint locking techniques. Can't say enough about it. My base training started out as Tae Kwon Do and incorporated judo and jiu jitsu. Here's an old photo of one of our night classes. I have the black bottoms on the Gi. You can see the smiles, everyone was having a great time.

Btw, the guy who's pictured is Dennis Palumbo and a link to some of his Bio Dennis Palumbo Jiu- Jitsu Master



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Looks like a great time. Edited title to add BJJ more specifically.

probably 15 years ago I had the pleasure to train with a guy that was maybe 2nd Dan in Aiki-JiuJitsu. I was a white belt. I barely survived. We eventually had to ask him to leave the dojo. Not because of style differences but he just couldn't ratchet it down a notch.




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I've been training Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for 9 years , the best thing to do is go in and observe a class or two and see how things are done. Lineage is also a big factor. The instructor you showed is in the Pedro Sauer lineage...good stuff.
 
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Avoid the gyms that have the motherfuckers who look to beat your ears up.

Keep some blue star ointment on hand.

Are you going Gi/No gi?




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Just started BJJ myself. I wanted a place with:

1. Both day and evening classes
2. Easy to get to from where I live now and where I will probably be living in a year or so.
3. Basics classes, I am doing this to get in shape and for self defense. I want to attend a Gracie Survival Tactics LEO Instructor class this year.
4. Good instructor, friendly helpful people. I have been to a couple places where every roll is a UFC Death Match.
5 Lineage is important.

Best advice; tap early tap often as getting injured isn't worth it at my age. Change up your home/gym workouts to emphasis the BJJ solo drills and movements. Lots of videos on Youtube to find something that works for you and works the areas that need improvement. I do mostly Kettlebells now (2-3 week) with 1 dumbbell traditional weight lifting session a week. I have a Gold's Gym near where I train now. After BJJ class, I stop at the Gold's Gym, swim some laps and sit in the sauna and whirlpool. It really helps my body recover faster.

I am also planning on doing Aikido; I have two places to try tomorrow.

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Avoid the gyms that have the motherfuckers who look to beat your ears up.

Keep some blue star ointment on hand.

Are you going Gi/No gi?


GI. The do have some No gi but I think they are blue belt & above. Can't remember. But Gi is the short answer.




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Originally posted by Killer:
I've been training Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for 9 years , the best thing to do is go in and observe a class or two and see how things are done. Lineage is also a big factor. The instructor you showed is in the Pedro Sauer lineage...good stuff.


Cool. Good to know on Lineage.




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Work on your cardio. BJJ is a smoker.

Bring plenty of water with you.

Have fun.

Be a good training partner.


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I did Japanese Ju-Jitsu for ten years. Before BJJ became all the craze.

Made it to purple belt before life got in the way. It took 12+ years to earn black belt on average there.

Shaped my life, and saved it more than once on the street. I keep threatening to start taking BJJ but I work too much.




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.... Lineage is also a big factor. The instructor you showed is in the Pedro Sauer lineage...good stuff.

I agree, Pedro Sauer is solid.

I've only been at it for 3.5 years, but I would also ask if you are going for more pure sport BJJ or if street defense is part of your interest. There really are two different focuses in the early part of the journey, depending on where you go.



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Originally posted by Killer:
.... Lineage is also a big factor. The instructor you showed is in the Pedro Sauer lineage...good stuff.

I agree, Pedro Sauer is solid.

I've only been at it for 3.5 years, but I would also ask if you are going for more pure sport BJJ or if street defense is part of your interest. There really are two different focuses in the early part of the journey, depending on where you go.

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Good point. We only focus on sport BJJ, but I don't think I would be lacking in taking a fight to the ground and having an advantage without the self defense stuff that a Pedro Sauer affiliate would teach. And, as someone above said, cardio is a BIG thing, however, the best way to improve your cardio for BJJ is more BJJ. Running won't help.
 
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Originally posted by TigerDore:
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Originally posted by Killer:
.... Lineage is also a big factor. The instructor you showed is in the Pedro Sauer lineage...good stuff.

I agree, Pedro Sauer is solid.

I've only been at it for 3.5 years, but I would also ask if you are going for more pure sport BJJ or if street defense is part of your interest. There really are two different focuses in the early part of the journey, depending on where you go.

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Good point. We only focus on sport BJJ, but I don't think I would be lacking in taking a fight to the ground and having an advantage without the self defense stuff that a Pedro Sauer affiliate would teach. And, as someone above said, cardio is a BIG thing, however, the best way to improve your cardio for BJJ is more BJJ. Running won't help.

I agree on the cardio. Being in shape for whatever you do requires doing it.

I think you are probably right about the self-defense. I think the biggest difference is early on: the first year or two. After nine years, you are past the moves/techniques and now you "think" in Jiu Jitsu. That was the first thing I noticed about getting to train with and learn from Ryron Gracie after I had been in it for about a year. Watching him solve a question on the spot, I realized he thought in Jiu Jitsu. It was quite a revelation.



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Originally posted by Killer:
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Originally posted by TigerDore:
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Originally posted by Killer:
.... Lineage is also a big factor. The instructor you showed is in the Pedro Sauer lineage...good stuff.

I agree, Pedro Sauer is solid.

I've only been at it for 3.5 years, but I would also ask if you are going for more pure sport BJJ or if street defense is part of your interest. There really are two different focuses in the early part of the journey, depending on where you go.

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Good point. We only focus on sport BJJ, but I don't think I would be lacking in taking a fight to the ground and having an advantage without the self defense stuff that a Pedro Sauer affiliate would teach. And, as someone above said, cardio is a BIG thing, however, the best way to improve your cardio for BJJ is more BJJ. Running won't help.

I agree on the cardio. Being in shape for whatever you do requires doing it.

I think you are probably right about the self-defense. I think the biggest difference is early on: the first year or two. After nine years, you are past the moves/techniques and now you "think" in Jiu Jitsu. That was the first thing I noticed about getting to train with and learn from Ryron Gracie after I had been in it for about a year. Watching him solve a question on the spot, I realized he thought in Jiu Jitsu. It was quite a revelation.



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I have never really thought about it that way, but yeah, I eat, breath and live BJJ, lol, it's an addiction...the same thing I tell every new white belt.
 
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UPDATE:

Well fellas. I'm a few weeks in and decisively engaged. They are a super good crew and zero meat heads there. There are equal number of laughs on the mat as there are taps. I can tell they are a tribe.

On top of it they are a very technical crew. I have A LOT to take in.

EDIT to add: They need work on their ukemi! Big Grin Coming form 15 years of Aikido. I can see at some point I'll be their crash dummy. LOL!




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EDIT to add: They need work on their ukemi! Coming form 15 years of Aikido. I can see at some point I'll be their crash dummy. LOL!

Well, you have to get to the ground before you can use a ground technique!



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2nd Update:

I'm on the calendar to test for what's essentially my halfway mark to Blue Belt. I'm super excited and starting to settle into the art. Anyone on the fence about Jiu-Jitsu go find a dojo!!




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