Excellent article. The author says what I've known for years - Mohammed would have been totally thrilled with the acts of his terrorist followers.


June 13, 2017
Was Mohammed a 'True Muslim'?
By Selwyn Duke

In the wake of every terrorist act, there is the same argument. The voices-in-the-wilderness on the right will say, insofar as they’re not muzzled by hate-speech laws, that Islam is the problem. In contrast, a leftist drumbeat of media and mainstream politicos will assert that the Muslim terrorists aren’t really “Muslim” terrorists, that they’ve perverted the faith. As to the truth, it’s as with any other debate over a thing’s true meaning (e.g., the Constitution): it only makes sense to look for answers in original sources.
This brings us to a simple question: Was Mohammed a true Muslim?

It’s a rhetorical question, of course. As Islam’s founder — the religion was born of revelations he supposedly had in the early seventh century — Mohammed was the very first Muslim. Moreover, since Muslims view him as “The Perfect Man,” the ultimate role model, he’s not just the truest Muslim but the yardstick by which other Muslims may measure themselves.  

So what was Mohammed’s “perfection”? He was a warlord who launched approximately 30 military campaigns, many of which he led himself. He was a caravan raider (a bandit) and captured, traded in and owned slaves (by the way, will liberals suggest slave-owning Mohammed be diminished, as they’ve done with our founders?). He ordered massacres, used torture and had dissidents assassinated. In 627 AD, he beheaded more than 600 men and boys of the Qurayza tribe in Medina, Arabia, thus wiping it off the map. He also was a polygamist and made it lawful for masters to have sexual relations with their female captives.

So, clearly, if today’s Islamic jihadists aren’t true Muslims, neither was Mohammed. But since we know the Perfect Man was the truest of Muslims, then…well, you can finish the sentence.  

Yet when analyzing Muslim motivations, the influence of Mohammed’s character is generally subordinated to that of Islamic teachings (most of which come from Mohammed). And even here, people generally make the mistake of focusing only on the Koran, unaware that it’s a mere 16 percent of the Islamic canon. The majority of it comprises the Hadiths and Sira.
This is noteworthy because while 9 percent of the Koran is devoted to jihad and political violence, 21 percent of the Hadiths is and a whopping 67 percent of the Sira is devoted to it, according to Bill Warner, Director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam. This is why Turkish journalist Uzay Bulut wrote in 2015 that “violence and domination” are “deeply rooted...and sanctioned with promises of rewards” in Islam, and, consequently, “fundamentalists will always find people to excite and people to persecute.”
The distribution of violent injunctions in these books helps explain something else. A German study involving 45,000 teens found that while increasing religiosity made Christian youth less violent, increasing religiosity made Muslim youth more violent.

This makes sense. A nominal Catholic may know a few verses from the Bible, but only a devout one scours it and, in addition, will read his catechism. Likewise, a casual Muslim might know a little bit from the Koran.

A serious one will soak it all in and delve into the Hadiths and Sira as well — and be exposed to all the violent injunctions therein.
Even more to the point here, however, these two sets of works together comprise the majority of the Sunnah, which is, as Islaamnet.com explains, “The legal way or ways, orders, acts of worship and statements of the Prophet, that are ideals and models to be followed by Muslims” (emphasis added). It is all about Mohammed’s words and deeds.

The significance of this cannot be overemphasized. Virtues (and vices) are caught more than they’re taught; actions speak louder than words. Thus are Christians more likely to ask “What would Jesus do?” than “What does the Bible say?” Thus are they more likely to counsel “Reflect Christ” than “Reflect Matthew 22:37.” Oh, the Bible is wonderful, and Matthew 22:37 is one of its most memorable parts. But examples are more powerful than instructions.
Muslims’ role model, their “Perfect Man,” is very different from Jesus in type of influence but not in degree of influence. As Warner points out, “The Koran says 91 different times that Mohammed's is the perfect pattern of life. It is much more important to know Mohammed than the Koran.” Thus is “Mohammed” (and its spelling variants) the world’s most common male name, belonging to approximately 150 million men and boys. And there’s a reason why pious Muslims write “PBUH” (“Peace be unto him”) after his name and why they’ll riot if he’s portrayed in a cartoon. He is, in a sense, the human face of Allah.

Islaamnet.com makes this clear, writing that “when Allaah says: ‘Whosoever obeys the Messenger [Mohammed], has indeed obeyed Allaah’ (Surah An-Nisa 4:80), it should be clear that one has obeyed Allaah by obeying the Messenger.”
Islaamnet also informs that Allah commanded, “‘It is not fitting for a believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decreed by Allah and His Messenger to have any choice in the matter. If anyone disobeys Allah and His Messenger he is clearly astray’ (Surah Al-Ahzab 33:36).”

This Messenger is, again, that warlord, bandit, mass murderer, employer of torture, polygamist and slaver trader and master. Worse still, it’s not that Muslims always rationalize away or attempt to whitewash this history. The truly devout ones may consider these actions — when directed toward non-Muslims — to be “good” because the actions have been sanctioned by their perceived author of right and wrong, Allah, and his messenger.

So people sometimes talk about “reforming” Islam, but this would require reforming Mohammed himself. How? You cannot resurrect him and have him live his life over.
Among the founders of extant major or quasi-major religions/philosophical systems — Lao Tzu, Confucius, Buddha, etc. — Mohammed stands alone, being a tyrant-cum-teacher. Of course, he doesn’t stand alone in history; Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, Tamerlane and many others paved similar bloody paths. As with them, he was largely a man of his time and place. But to more than a billion people, he’s also the perfect man even in our time and place.
And that’s the point. After all, if someone told you Attila the Hun was the perfect man and his role model, would you turn your back on that person?

http://www.americanthinker.com...d_a_true_muslim.html

Screw Mohammed. He's dead.

That acts of his followers are on them.

And their history up to the present is their conviction.

And if my position on this is a little ambiguous, well, I don't think I care much for the people or their religion.

Hope that helps.

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

Pretty accurate statement, IMO.

Mohammed - The David Koresh of his day.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

Pretty accurate statement, IMO.

Hah, I forgot about Han's remark! So true.

Who is the author trying to convince or convert? Is this going to change anyone's mind. My WAG says no.

^^^^ We are bombarded after these terrorist acts with the mantra that the jihadis have "perverted" their religion. He's simply pointing out that Islamic terrorists are hardly "radicals" perverting their religion. They are acting in total conformity with their founder's acts. Because of that, it's pretty hard to have any reformation, because their doctrine is based not just on the words of their founder, but also on his acts.

The Nazis had some pretty wacky religious beliefs. That doesn't mean we had to kneel down and get beheaded to prove our tolerance.

Death cults can not be reformed or civilised.

A very basic question whenever someone wants to draw a moral equivalence between Islam and Christianity (or any other religion for that matter) is this:

Which world would you like to live in? A world where everybody lived and behaved as Jesus did, or a world where everybody lived and behaved as Mohammed did?

^^^That question was answered by Richard Dawkins in a panel discussion I saw on youtube. Though Dawkins is an avowed atheist who wrote the book "The God Delusion," he looked directly at the Muslim imam on the panel and said England is a Christian nation and he'd by far rather live under Christianity than Islam.

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Originally posted by bobtheelf:
A very basic question whenever someone wants to draw a moral equivalence between Islam and Christianity (or any other religion for that matter) is this:

Which world would you like to live in? A world where everybody lived and behaved as Jesus did, or a world where everybody lived and behaved as Mohammed did?

The problem is most people have absolutely no clue on how Mohammed lived, acted and what he "preached".
Alot of people will not even believe you if you try to explain the truth. The​ libertard surely won't.


ARman

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Originally posted by ARman:

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Originally posted by bobtheelf:
A very basic question whenever someone wants to draw a moral equivalence between Islam and Christianity (or any other religion for that matter) is this:

Which world would you like to live in? A world where everybody lived and behaved as Jesus did, or a world where everybody lived and behaved as Mohammed did?

The problem is most people have absolutely no clue on how Mohammed lived, acted and what he "preached".
Alot of people will not even believe you if you try to explain the truth. The​ libertard surely won't.


ARman

Yep. I could post at length and in depth. In sum, one of the best weapons of the islamo-supremacist is the intellectual sloth of the infidel.

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Originally posted by bobtheelf:
A very basic question whenever someone wants to draw a moral equivalence between Islam and Christianity (or any other religion for that matter) is this...

I would posit Christianity 'is' a religion, and Islam 'is not'. Islam is simply the governing tool of a savage theocracy wherein it dictates every action and behavior of its adherent's lives. Any so called 'religion' that requires the murder of non-believers is not a religion.

Strip Islam if its religious status worldwide, and we can get down to business eradicating those that can not and/or will not coexist on this rock.