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So...these Einstein's believe that bail is fundamentally racist and marginalizes certain people yet, they can't wrap their heads around the fact that without bail, there's no incentive for the accused to curb their behavior and/or, return for their trail. Those of you members in law enforcement and legal council can provide better perspective on this push from public defenders and criminal apologists afflicting our country's criminal justice system.

Whomever is donating to these groups, are morally corrupt and warped. These funds helped pour gas on the riots of 2020

Victims say Seattle-based charity bail group should stop freeing people charged with violent crimes
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Victims say Seattle-based charity bail group should stop freeing people charged with violent crimes

There's a controversial push across the U.S. to bail people out of jail regardless of the charge against them.

SEATTLE — There is a push across the country, including in western Washington, to reform the cash bail system through nonprofit groups that post bail for those who can’t afford it. These groups are drawing criticism from victim advocates and the crime victims they serve.
There are approximately 100 charitable bail organizations in the country, including the Seattle-based Northwest Community Bail Fund (NCBF). Through donations, the NCBF said they can post bail for between 80 and 90 defendants per month awaiting trial at the King, Snohomish, and Pierce county jails.

The concern raised by victims is that the NCBF bails people out of jail regardless of the charges filed against them. This includes people charged with “serious violent” felony offenses, as defined by state law.
“I am all for social justice and for helping underprivileged people, but why would they allow someone to get out who has committed violent acts against other people? And someone who has a long history of it?” said domestic violence survivor Tiffany Wood of Seattle.

Wood's ex-boyfriend has a criminal record that includes domestic violence assault and the violation of several protection orders. The NCBF bailed her ex-boyfriend out of jail in early March after an arrest for possession of a stolen vehicle and charges stemming from another violation of a protection order meant to keep Wood and her children safe.

“To say this has upset me is an understatement,” said Wood. “[My ex-boyfriend] has a long history of not showing up to court. This organization clearly didn’t care about the victims in these cases. Having him in jail was the one thing that made me feel safe from him.”

The NCBF states their work is necessary because the current system fuels racial and economic inequalities.
“The truth is that bail creates two systems of criminal justice in Washington: one for people who can afford bail, and one for people who can’t,” the website states.

“Our work focuses on counteracting the structural issues of a system that is not founded on guilt or innocence, but on affluence and privilege," said NCBF Executive Director Becky Errera.

According to the National Bail Fund Network, the practice of bailing pre-trial defendants out of jail regardless of the alleged crime is common among charitable bail funds throughout the country. The groups make decisions on who they post bail for based on “resources and need,” not the type of charge.

“The assessment of need is one not based on [a] charge,” said National Bail Fund Network Director Pilar Weiss. “[We] prioritize those that may lose their job, their housing, custody of their children, [people who] are the primary caretaker for others, have a health condition that puts them in even more danger [in jail], etc.”

The local nonprofit said in 2021 they posted bail for 278 defendants with cases in the King County Superior Court system, most of which are felony cases. King County public records obtained by KING 5 show that of those defendants, approximately half of the people bailed out were charged with non-violent offenses such as theft of a motor vehicle, unlawful possession of a firearm, identity theft, and failure to register as a sex offender.

But the other half bailed out were in jail and awaiting trial for alleged crimes involving violence, including domestic violence assault, armed robbery, vehicular homicide, arson, and rape of a child in the first degree.
Crime victim advocates said they were surprised to learn the NCBF bails defendants out of jail without a review of their charges and criminal histories.

“People are shocked. They didn’t even know that such a fund existed. I wish victims could have more of a say when these decisions are being made,” said Tiffany Attrill, victim advocate at the King County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office. "Victims often feel forgotten. They feel unheard, that their opinions, thoughts, feelings don’t matter. This feels like another layer of just having no voice.”

In a 2019 domestic violence case, a Seattle man was charged with assaulting his girlfriend. Police said he was punishing her for leaving their apartment and leaving behind their crying infant.

The NCBF paid $2,000 to bail him out of jail. Three weeks later he was charged with a new crime: allegedly returning to his girlfriend’s house and killing the baby.

Weiss of the National Bail Fund Network said highlighting outlier cases where someone allegedly reoffends with a particularly violent crime "may invoke a certain fear-mongering."

“It is always convenient for criminal legal system actors to focus on charges that may sound frightening or extreme,” said Weiss. “But they are charges the [prosecuting attorneys] chose, and they also were still eligible for bail and have a presumption of innocence.”

Of the data KING 5 obtained involving King County Superior Court cases where the NCBF bailed out a defendant in 2021, 16% were charged with a new crime within a year of being bailed out.

Crime victims and advocates said not considering the severity of a charge before posting bail for defendants creates a public safety risk.

“Shame on them. Shame on them,” said Angie Arabie. Arabie’s 31-year-old son Bradley was allegedly murdered on June 17, 2021, in Seattle's City Hall Park by a man bailed out of the King County Jail by the NCBF.

“It’s ripped my soul out of me,” said Arabie, who is from Lake Charles, Louisiana. “I miss my boy.”

In this case, the defendant, 50-year-old Michael Sedejo, was originally charged with assaulting and robbing a 65-year-old man in Seattle’s City Hall Park on April 13, 2021. The King County Prosecuting Attorney's Office asked the court to set bail at $20,000. The prosecutor argued the bail was necessary “based on the likelihood that the defendant may commit a violent offense…The state is concerned about the safety of the community if the defendant is released from custody.”

The judge lowered the bail to $5,000, and public records show the NCBF paid it in cash. Two months later, Sedejo was charged with murdering Bradley Arabie in City Hall Park with a pocketknife.

“The prosecutor’s office told the judge he was a danger. That word should have meant something to somebody, and it didn’t. And I don’t have a baby. I don’t have my son,” Arabie said.

The NCBF said when it bails someone out of jail, it is no different than when someone uses a for-profit bail bonds service. It added that its work is essential to fight systemic racism in the criminal legal system.

“We have a system of 'innocent until proven guilty,' and the fact that we keep millions of people a year pre-trial who have not been convicted is hugely problematic,” said Dr. Jackie Helfgott, director of Seattle University’s Crime and Justice Research Center. She is not affiliated with the NCBF.

Research shows the current bail system perpetuates racism because people of color are more likely to be over-policed and arrested and more likely to sit in jail unable to post bail.

“We have a system that is infused with systemic racism across the whole span of the system,” Helfgott said. “The only people that should be detained pre-trial are people who present a serious public safety risk. Other than that, everyone else should be released, whether they have money or not (because) people are innocent until proven guilty, and the fact that jail is a horrible place. It’s worse than prison.”

Further research shows people who sit in jail without a way to bail themselves out are more likely to plead guilty regardless of whether they committed the crime. According to researchers at the University of Miami, pretrial detainees plead guilty 2.86 times faster than defendants who are out of custody.

“Poor people accused of crimes face a stark choice: stay in jail to fight the case or plead guilty and go home. This creates a system in which innocent people plead guilty because they can’t afford bail,” writes the NCBF on its website.

Studies show allowing defendants to go free as they await trial can improve public safety. When people are in custody, they are cut off from their community support, employment, opportunities for education, and treatment options. Unlike the state prison system, there are few services in jail settings, which can lead to a higher likelihood of reoffending.

Research published in a 2017 edition of the Stanford Law Review advocated for a better pretrial release policy, in part, because “those detained pretrial are more likely to commit future crimes, which suggests that detention may have a criminogenic effect.”

“If you’re cycling in and out of a jail situation, you’re more likely to stay in the criminal justice system. If you put people in jail, there’s no opportunity to succeed in a jail setting, so it just compounds the problems and keeps people in the system,” said Dr. Helfgott of Seattle University. “The more we can keep people out of jail, connected with their support systems, in community treatment programs, the better.”

Arabie, who lost her son last year, said before posting bails, the NCBF should consider what victims have to say, or at least think hard about releasing defendants charged with violent crimes.

“No one, from the judge all the way down, no one considered that [in my son's case], and that’s horrible," she said.
 
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Have liberals removed words like morals, ethics, values from the dictionaries yet? Seems like it.

Yes, innocent until proven guilty. But having millions in pre-trial isn't the problem. The problem is all the crime - millions in pre-trial means millions of crimes. No crime, problem solved. Tell them to stop and pre-trial / bail becomes academic.

Say again - we don't have pre-trial problem. we have a crime problem.




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People in areas that vote for candidates that support this horse shit “bail reform” shouldn’t be shocked when these policies blow up in their faces. I realize that there are situations where someone simply lives in them but does not support such tripe, but not living there may be preferable to becoming a victim. Put another way, I’d make every effort to move away from such nonsense if it could affect me and mine.




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Attempting to remove or recall politicians who suppor these efforts will result in them calling you racist or "white power" advocates or something.

Funny how our feelz get hurt immediately and we back down. We can blame the charity organizations pumping Soros money into "bail reform" but the real culprits are those in the locality to take a knee over it. Our enemies don't play fair and fight dirty, there comes a time when Looking and Being Nice has to be set aside. So far public image is more important to those who oppose it than success in fixing it.

We have a fifth column of conservatives in leadership roles who is enabling these disasters and trying to prompt them into action is exactly why they are there and resisting our entreaties. To disempower us. Stop working with RINO's, go around them, make new organizations and handle things directly. Be open and obvious about it - continuing to support do nothing "Republicans" in name only is just playing to our weaknesses.

Its past time to confront them publicly with hard questions about why they aren't doing anything.
 
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Two things happening concurrently:

  • Increasing calls for bail elimination/funds to bail out violent offenders being offered
  • States allowing concealed firearms with or without licensure.

    If more felonious, violent offenders are being freed, that means more chances of these two worlds meeting.

    The net effect means more violent crime but more likelihood of those offenders being ventilated at some point as well.
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    Sounds like a wonderful program to import to Chicago. Keep those pesky gangbangers out of jail and in the streets. Kim Foxx would love the idea.
     
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    Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
    Sounds like a wonderful program to import to Chicago. Keep those pesky gangbangers out of jail and in the streets. Kim Foxx would love the idea.

    There's no doubt, that Chicago has its fair share of bail reform advocates who have a sizable fund to bail-out criminals and pay for their legal fees.
     
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