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I have a gfci outlet in my garage that intermittently trips,sometimes ok for a couple of weeks,sometimes it does not last to long, replaced the outlet and used a Klein plug in wiring checker and all the outlets check ok. Does not matter what I have plugged in. Could flaky 15amp panel cb cause these issues? | ||
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You might check what you have plugged in to the receptacles on the front and back porch, possibly the basement. Depending the age of the house that circuit could have bathroom outlets on it too. _______________________ “There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.” ― Frank Zappa | |||
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the house was built in 2001,all the bathrooms,kitchen area etc have the legal requirements so I don't think I have multiple GFCI outlets on the same line. | |||
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Right, the bathrooms or kitchen wouldn't play into it at that point. Typically the garage, front and rear weatherproof outlets and at least one in the basement would be on that circuit. I had a guy that had a little fountain thing plugged in on his back porch that would cause the GFCI in the garage to trip. Probably wouldn't be a problem with the breaker tripping the GFCI. _______________________ “There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.” ― Frank Zappa | |||
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Ammoholic |
Given 2001 build it is likely that the bath and garage/ext/unfinished area GFIs are separate, but it is possible they are not. Do you also have a GFI in one of the bathrooms? Do you have anything plugged in in your garage or unfinished areas of basement? Do you have a post light or any landscape lighting? Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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I had that issue in my house. I finally pulled the wall plate off each receptacle on the circuit having the issue. I found two receptacles where the hot wire had made contact with the ground. The ground wires had arcing damage. The builder wasn't too cautious about how he pushed the receptacles/ wiring into the boxes. With plugging and unplugging items, the receptacles loosened enough to allow the contact. Sic Semper Tyrannis If you beat your swords into plowshares, you will become farmers for those who didn't! Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners-George Carlin | |||
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Did you replace the outlet yourself? Where there more than one set of wires connected to the GFI? If so was the second set of wires connected in the same position as the first. Trying to figure out if anything else is protected by that GFI that could be the problem. _____________________________________ Because in the end, you won’t remember the time you spent working in the office or mowing your lawn. Climb that goddamn mountain. Jack Kerouac | |||
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I have GFI's basically everywhere there is water, have 2 in the kitchen, one in each bathroom. Have unplugged a couple of extension cords from the outside outlets and yes I installed the replacement one. I finished the basement and have a sub panel that I use for it with a GFI in the bathroom and the bar so it's separate from my garage circuit. It's a 15 amp service but I did notice I installed a 20 amp GFI instead of a 15 but the symptom hasn't changed. | |||
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It is not normal to have GFI's in every bathroom, but that has nothing to do with your issue likely. Same with 20a GFI on 15a breaker, you can always overbuild. Likely that the garage GFI only controls the ext stuff, garage, and unfinished areas, plus post light. Do you have a post light or any landscape lights? Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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No,no post/landscape lights. I have a trickle charger for my bike, will try unplugging that. | |||
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| Ammoholic |
An odd one from yesterday, took me almost an hour to figure it it. Same problem as you. Found a humidifier plugged into basement unfinished area outlet that had failed. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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I'm Fine |
Having more than one GFI on any single circuit will cause them to trip. ------------------ SBrooks | |||
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Yeah I know about multiple GFi's on the same circuit, I got a CB/Outlet locator and will confirm what is on the circuit this weekend. Just weird how intermittent it is. | |||
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the random tripping is exactly what mine did when I screwed up and installed a second gfi outlet on a circuit that already had one :-) I thought it wasn't on same ciruit - but turned out it was.... ------------------ SBrooks | |||
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| The success of a solution usually depends upon your point of view |
Throw the breaker to that outlet and use your plug in tester on every other outlet to detirmine what other outlets are on the same circuit. Pull the covers off all the outlers you find without power and inspect them for arcing or water intrusion. “We truly live in a wondrous age of stupid.” - 83v45magna "I think it's important that people understand free speech doesn't mean free from consequences societally or politically or culturally." -Pranjit Kalita, founder and CIO of Birkoa Capital Management | |||
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this is a longshot, but radio transmitters can cause a GFCI to trip. Not cellphones, but more powerful things like ham radio, AM broadcast stations nearby and other powerful transmitters like Military. The transmitter would have to be within about 20 yards of your home to affect it. I've found the newer GFCI's are better than the old ones when it comes to false tripping. Might replace it --- they are cheap Home Depot items. . | |||
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