If someone’s been out of work or a year or more and they only have 88 cents in their bank account, that’s appealing poor financial management, especially with all of the money the the government has thrown to people out of work, especially those with children. She’s living with her mother, so no rent or house payment, so where has all of the unemployment, plus extra stimmy money been going?

I somewhat understand the point about schools weren’t open, so people have to stay home and take care of the kids, but the school year is over. How did people take care of their kids when they were out of school in previous summers? Plus, if she was a teacher, she likely didn’t teach for the summer months either, so what’s really changed?

The extra unemployment benefits are going to end in September anyway. If someone can’t manage to find a job within the next week or so, what are the odds that they’ll be able to find a job in September?

The majority of these people simply didn’t expect the free ride to end, and so didn’t prepare for it. That’s entirely on them. The excuses of everything’s shut down, kids are at home instead of school, etc. are gone. The real excuse is that people don’t want to take a job that they feel is beneath them and want to hold out for something that’s as good or better than the job they had. Fact check, unemployment never worked like that. You don’t get to hang there sucking off the teat forever until you find a job that you like. The reality is that some jobs may not be coming back, even by September, so people have to move on.

Cutting off the extra benefits is absolutely the right thing to do.

There is work here locally even for Seniors. Ingalls shipyard as I said earlier has 3 thousand jobs. I am sure some of them involve project management.

All I hear is waaa.
I have worked two low paying full time jobs and part time on the weekend to make it.

You can work more than one job at a time.
Staying at home makes no money at all.
When you are truly broke some money is better than no money.

My wife has to stay home as our schools are still doing distance learning and we lost that income for now.
I'm just back to working more than 8 hrs a day now again, same as I've done most of my working life.

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...so no rent or house payment, so where has all of the unemployment, plus extra stimmy money been going?

DoorDash, Grubhub, UberEats?

..and Chinese crap from Amazon, streaming video subscriptions.

These are the same people that'd somehow manage to not a have $0.88 in their checking account at the end of the month after being given $1,000/week.

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Originally posted by stoic-one:

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...so no rent or house payment, so where has all of the unemployment, plus extra stimmy money been going?

DoorDash, Grubhub, UberEats?

I have a local chef friend who is about to close his booming restaurant. Biz is great. He may have to close because he can't keep kitchen or wait staff. The good kitchen cooks work for a bit, then start driving to Nashville for higher paying jobs.

Cook's with a pulse are starting at $20ish per hour.

The wait staff either quit to go be lazy, or get jobs in Nashville. Can't really blame them. His wait staff averages about $50 per hour after tips but they can boost that to 75-100 in the big city. That's a couple hundred dollars more per shift by driving about 2 hours round trip. He pays them well above minimum wage.

There are a couple of McDonald's in the area that are paying cash at the end of each shift. Yes, they are essentially hiring day workers...

I just thought it was crazy before but this is beyond the twilight zone....

During the worst of Covid he used his kitchen to cook take out and take-home meals. The take home meals were fully prepped and just had to be cooked. Takeout was just like normal. He did decently with it and he and his wife, along with one kitchen helper could run the entire thing. Made more money too... He just really wants to have a "real" restaurant. Loves interacting with customers.

Idleness corrupts one’s soul. I came to Canada with an LL.B., and my first job here was as an ER assistant, doing CPR, stocking meds, portering patients, helping nurses clean their patients, dressing dead people for their families etc.

I have all sympathy for people who can’t work, but zero for people who won’t work “beneath their dignity and/or qualifications”. Screw every single one of them.

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Originally posted by bob ramberg:
My Democrat wife and daughter never miss an opportunity to remind me of the party that is cutting my benefits.

Perhaps you should remind them who manufactured this hardship in the first place and who continues to destroy good jobs every day and aims ultimately to abolish the middle class. Why don't you smack them upside the head with some truth?

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Originally posted by bob ramberg:
I've been out of work since April 3, 2020. I was furloughed along with several other project managers and engineers, then let go after 3 months. Most of our work was in the refineries, steel mills and specialty chemicals. They all cut their capital spending, so our workload dried up.
Every day I look at Ladders, Indeed, LinkedIn. I'm lucky if I can find one position a week that matches my skill-set. So far in 14 months, I have gotten ONE interview. At 66 years old, there may be some age discrimination at work. Although I live in IL my Unemployment Insurance comes from IN, one of the states that cutting benefits. I have been borrowing from my life insurance to make ends meet. I may have to start taking SS, but I have a mountain of debt and really can't afford to retire. Sorry for the rant but things are tough. My Democrat wife and daughter never miss an opportunity to remind me of the party that is cutting my benefits.
Bob(will manage projects for ammo)

Hey Bob, check your email about about potential PM positions, I may be able to offer some suggestions.

Saw 2 beggars at the usual spot today - haven't seen any since unemployment became en vogue. 1 had an umbrella.

Both were standing next to 'help wanted' signs from temp companies for MFG jobs ($12-15/hr), within sight of 3 buildings with 'now hiring' signs on the building. (taco bell, burger king & walmart, all 10/hr or more).

Company we use for our fire alarms is hiring for apprentices, fresh out of highschool/no experience needed. $18-24 per hour, company vehicle, and gas card.

Everyone is hiring here. Granted I live in a very prosperous place, even gas station shift supervisor jobs for $20 per hour down the road from me.

Unemployment insurance is for people who can't find work, not those who don't want to work.

I've no sympathy for any of them. Get a job. Three times in my life I NEEDED a job. Once after losing a 20 year career due to political influences.

In every situation I had a job within 24 hours. On two occasions I had two jobs in 48 hours. They may not have been great jobs or high paying. But I didn't go on unemployment or any other handout programs. Regards 18DAI

His guy held a job as a “medical lab scientist”? I know about medical lab technicians, my wife was one for years before our children were born, but a scientist? Sounds like an overly important title for a lab technician, who probably wasn’t making much more than $15/hour anyway. There are plenty of well paying jobs out there to replace that. They might not be in an air conditioned clean medical lab and you might have to deal with retail customers, but they’ll pay the bills.

Like the guy I see standing and begging on the same corner in the late afternoons and early evenings.

He could walk probably a quarter mile down the road to a strip mall and get a job at Kroger, Home Depot or at several other stores or restaurants there. Or cross Grand River Avenue to the hospital and find some work. Or go approximately one mile further to Target, Sam's Club, Meijers, Menards or other small businesses around there and be employed that same day.

But he's probably collecting unemployment on top of his begging. I've been tempted to go to the park and ride lot about 800 feet from the intersection and see what kind of car or truck he drives off in.

Absolutely begging for RNs here, worst it’s been in my 16 years of management.

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Originally posted by NewRiverGeorge:
Absolutely begging for RNs here, worst it’s been in my 16 years of management.

My daughter and her boyfriend are RN’s. They recently took positions as travel nurses. It’s crazy how in demand they are. First assignment was Brooklyn, NY. Next week they leave for Asheville, NC.

Not surprisingly, I agree wholeheartedly with just about every comment in this thread (which says a lot about the work ethic here).

One thing I learned, and which I tried to instill in my kids was: If you don’t have a job, make looking for a job your job. In other words, you get up in the morning, get showered and dressed, and spend the next 8+ hours checking want ads, networking, sending out resumes, lining up interviews, and otherwise actively look for work.

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Originally posted by bob ramberg:
I've been out of work since April 3, 2020. I was furloughed along with several other project managers and engineers, then let go after 3 months. Most of our work was in the refineries, steel mills and specialty chemicals. They all cut their capital spending, so our workload dried up.
Every day I look at Ladders, Indeed, LinkedIn. I'm lucky if I can find one position a week that matches my skill-set. So far in 14 months, I have gotten ONE interview. At 66 years old, there may be some age discrimination at work. Although I live in IL my Unemployment Insurance comes from IN, one of the states that cutting benefits. I have been borrowing from my life insurance to make ends meet. I may have to start taking SS, but I have a mountain of debt and really can't afford to retire. Sorry for the rant but things are tough. My Democrat wife and daughter never miss an opportunity to remind me of the party that is cutting my benefits.
Bob(will manage projects for ammo)

I just quit my job as a project manager in a chemical plant for a higher paying job. You’re in the wrong place, plenty of jobs around the Houston area and my last employer hired someone in their 60’s.

My neighbors haven't worked in years. They just put a roof on their house with all the "free" money they've been getting being pieces of shit.

There are plenty of jobs. Admittedly, most that I see advertised wouldn't cover my family's food needs, let alone a modest mortgage and other expenses. I actually have little sympathy for some of these places who can't find people to work for $12-15 an hour. I strongly oppose the government making it worse though, and am very happy we've finally convinced our Governor to end the insanity of unemployment benefits. They'll still be more than enough for those not spending it on drugs and McDonalds. The Federal "kicker" has purchased a lot of ATV's and other toys in the last year.

My daughter was laid off when her call center closed. The company was decent and provided a great severance package. The group she worked with wouldn’t have had to work for months. Four days later she was hired at her new job. She’s not heard of any of her group that doesn’t have a job.
If you don’t have a job it’s because you aren’t out knocking on doors.