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I have been streaming for years. Every station in every town is available. MUCH better than AM. Tune-in Radio with

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Posts: 189 | Location: United States | Registered: January 18, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Remember buying an f.m. tuner from radio shack for my "65"" Chevelle.

It plugged in to the back of the OEM a m. Radio.

Now
People will be out looking for a.m.tuners for their new cars

Enough with the progress!

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Posts: 55400 | Location: Henry County , Il | Registered: February 10, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Meh, every AM station I would care to listen to has an FM alternative, most digital capable. They can dump it but give me something in exchange when I' pay $50,000+ for a gasser that are fine president want's to obsolete.



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Posts: 11524 | Location: Fort Worth, Texas | Registered: February 07, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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My great aunt made Motorola car radios back in the day. They were the best.

 
Posts: 17759 | Location: Stuck at home | Registered: January 02, 2015Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I still can't over the removal of cassette and cd players.
 
Posts: 7262 | Location: Treasure Coast,Fl. | Registered: July 04, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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From Wikipedia:
VHF radio waves usually do not travel far beyond the visual horizon, so reception distances for FM stations are typically limited to 30–40 miles (50–60 km). They can also be blocked by hills and to a lesser extent by buildings. Individuals with more-sensitive receivers or specialized antenna systems, or who are located in areas with more favorable topography, may be able to receive useful FM broadcast signals at considerably greater distances.

This is still less than the range of AM radio waves, which because of their lower frequencies can travel as ground waves or reflect off the ionosphere, so AM radio stations can be received at hundreds (sometimes thousands) of miles. This is a property of the carrier wave's typical frequency (and power), not its mode of modulation.

I used to have to deal with customer complaints of poor FM reception out west. At minimum we were about 90 miles from the Albuquerque transmitters on Sandia Peak. I’d listen to the radio, drive the car around town and on my return to the dealership show the owners manual to the customer and have them read the part of 25 miles straight line and ask them how far we were from “the city”.

Our county has many “dead spots” for cell phone Internet despite being about thirty miles from four major cities, Detroit, Ann Arbor, Flint and Lansing in each direction. That precludes using an app for AM reception. Don’t see this going well for Ford.


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Posts: 8562 | Location: Livingston County Michigan USA | Registered: August 11, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Ok I'll say it, and it needs to be said. Ford, you stupid fucking idiots. Old guys are still buying your overpriced trucks, and you still purposely chose to piss off a major market segment ? How stupid is that ? Pretty stupid if you ask me.


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Posts: 2183 | Location: East Virginia | Registered: October 12, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The Maine Turnpike has an AM radio station for traffic alerts, quite handy at times.

While that's probably 90% of my AM usage, it's kinda a big one for a lot of folks.

I can kind of understand the cars not coming with CD players, but it baffles me to see them ditch AM receivers.




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Being in LE, I've spent countless hours on the road, and a large portion of those hours was listening to AM radio. I also used to listen to AM at home, but I rarely do now.

If I didn't have my Christian radio and political talk/news shows, I don't see how I could have made it to retirement.

I wouldn't put it past them, but knowing the political climate, I could see AM being dumped due to it being knowns for conservative talk and faith-based programming. In 2020, I remember workers didn't want to make any more police vehicles due to all of that major anti-LE crappe going on.


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Bad idea, the FCC still maintains a network of 50,000 watt clear channel AM stations that can be activated for EAS nation wide in the event of a national disaster. With the better radiation that AM has this could be vital in the event of nationwide broadcasts that needed to be broadcast. There is overlapping coverage on non interfering radiation patterns so that multiple stations serve the same areas on different frequencies. This could be vital if an EMP takes out multiple stations across the country. With recent geopolitical stances being displayed we may need this function.



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Bad idea, the FCC still maintains a network of 50,000 watt clear channel AM stations that can be activated for EAS nation wide in the event of a national disaster. With the better radiation that AM has this could be vital in the event of nationwide broadcasts that needed to be broadcast. There is overlapping coverage on non interfering radiation patterns so that multiple stations serve the same areas on different frequencies. This could be vital if an EMP takes out multiple stations across the country. With recent geopolitical stances being displayed we may need this function.


Great info and as a ham radio operator I was thinking along the same line. There are still a lot of parts of the country that do not get much if any FM reception either.
 
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Simple, don't buy a ferd.


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Posts: 18394 | Location: Kentucky, USA | Registered: February 25, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Moving AM or any other radio wave to the internet completely eliminates any remaining anonymity in communications. Having everything at the tip of your fingers from your cell phone or computer is great, but I don't think you're thinking it through. Convenient and easy, yea for sure. But when all communications are completely migrated to the internet, ALL your stuff, anything and everything, and everything else in addition to everything, is 100% surveillable and can and will be used against you by whomever has the desire and power to do it. Anyone. China, Russia, NSA, Congress, State and Federal Police, anyone. So I don't see how losing AM, Shortwave, and FM radio waves are a good thing by any standard, esp. considering the present state of the peril of freedom in the USA and the rest of the word. I would not have expected this in the great Sigforum to pass so easily as another normal "times are changing" type of thread.




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Posts: 9202 | Location: Nowhere the constitution is not honored | Registered: February 01, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Add this to the ever growing list of reason's not to buy a Fard!
 
Posts: 606 | Location: Helena, AL | Registered: July 15, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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^^^^ Well Ford does have a new innovation they’re bringing out.

Soon you’ll see their newest option available, the new Ford Heated Tail Gate!

That will help keep your hands warm while having to push it off the road til the tow truck arrives!

(snort guffaw lol)
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Posts: 12088 | Location: Near Hooker Oklahoma, closer to Slapout Oklahoma | Registered: October 26, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Wrightd,
What do you think about a fella with three phones?

All for very specific applications ,most of the time two are in "special" cases / pouches.

And this guy is about as regular an every day schmo as you can imagine.

He ham radios.

Just a hard working , get'er done nice fella.





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The issue for the EV cars is they are such a bad design that they emit electrical noise on the AM broadcast band, making it difficult to hear anything else but the noise. Seriously, they need to spend more time on electromagnetic compatibility and the issue (mostly) goes away.

FEMA officials correctly say AM is the backbone of the Emergency Broadcast System.

When SHTF, good luck with those cell phone steaming services. In the disaster area, you may not even get local FM stations. As an example, during the Loma Prietta Quake, Bay Area locals got info from some 50 kW AM station near Sac, because local stations just weren't there.


And how am I supposed to believe and know you're an expert on radio??? Wink Wink Wink


Seriously, thanks for the insight.



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I was thinking about a new Ford next year. But this is a real breaker, no late night Art Bell reruns. No new F150.
 
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Rural America still has lots of AM radio. And why would I burn up my bandwith streaming anything when I get off the air radio fro free?


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FEMA officials correctly say AM is the backbone of the Emergency Broadcast System.

When SHTF, good luck with those cell phone steaming services. In the disaster area, you may not even get local FM stations. As an example, during the Loma Prietta Quake, Bay Area locals got info from some 50 kW AM station near Sac, because local stations just weren't there.


This may be what they say, but if no one listens to AM . . .




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