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Bill Elliot holds top qualifying speed records at both Talledega and Daytona. Both records were set in 1987.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Elliott
 
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The powers-that-be have ruined NASCAR. I rarely watch anymore.


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Couldn't have said it better, except I NEVER watch anymore. I stopped watching on a consistent basis a year or two after Rusty Wallace retired and then eventually figured out I had better things to do on a Sunday afternoon.



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Couldn't have said it better, except I NEVER watch anymore. I stopped watching on a consistent basis a year or two after Rusty Wallace retired and then eventually figured out I had better things to do on a Sunday afternoon.


^^^^^ This here except I am a Darrell Waltrip fan, then took Kevin Harvick under my wing. I figured Harvick needed some fan help when he jumped into the Goodwrench car after Sr died. Michigan track in August was one of my yearly destinations for years. Have not been to a race since 2010. Too many rule changes every year to where I cannot keep up, plus drivers jumping ship with teams, sponsors, car numbers and so on. I will have to admit, I did get something in my eyes when I watched the Ryan Newman accident. I watched him in his first cup race and always respected him!


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Imagine how easy it is to average 194 MPH at Daytona with modern suspension technology vs that available 50 years ago in 1970. That is why at race speeds today, Daytona is a 3 plus groove track, vs likely a one groove track at those speeds in 1970.

I understand NASCAR's dilemma, the horsepower available in the early 1980's was creating a dangerous situation. That was what made the racing exciting. One car leaving the track and entering the stands likely would have ended stock car racing, so they had to limit power and speeds. The history of qualifying speeds tells the story that they can't hide.
 
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Imagine how easy it is to average 194 MPH at Daytona with modern suspension technology vs that available 50 years ago in 1970. That is why at race speeds today, Daytona is a 3 plus groove track, vs likely a one groove track at those speeds in 1970.

I understand NASCAR's dilemma, the horsepower available in the early 1980's was creating a dangerous situation. That was what made the racing exciting. One car leaving the track and entering the stands likely would have ended stock car racing, so they had to limit power and speeds. The history of qualifying speeds tells the story that they can't hide.


I agree. The cars were just getting too fast for safety reasons. But why not go back to where a Nascar has to closely resemble the shape of the real world car it's based on, that should slow them down a bit. Another option is rear end gearing and limiting what they can run there, if you run out of RPM's you either blow the motor up or don't go faster.

I really liked the IROC series where every car was the same and the engine was the same and it came up to the driver and the team that determined whether they won or not. but I haven't watched Nascar for a decade pretty much.
 
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Took a trip to the Dawsonville Pool Hall and the Bill Elliott Museum in the late '80s.

They had one of the superspeedway Thunderbirds on the floor and a few other cars. One thing that I had noticed on the superspeedway car was that everything was smoothed out, even the windows were flush with the bodywork. Sure, it looked like a Thunderbird... The race shop was impressive, then Bill left town.

Thought it was cool that with everything that Bill, Budweiser, and Junior Johnson could do, they would loose the championship to the only owner-driver to win it in the last 58 years.



 
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I really liked the IROC series where every car was the same and the engine was the same and it came up to the driver and the team that determined whether they won or not. but I haven't watched Nascar for a decade pretty much.


IROC was good, but to me mainly because it mixed drivers from different racing disciplines. Some of the most exciting racing I've seen was a Wide World of Sports series called the "Superbikers" It pitted racers from road racing, TT, flat track, and motorcross on tracks that had features of all. Lots of passing between the sections that suited the motocrossers and then again those that suited the flat trackers.
 
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Took a trip to the Dawsonville Pool Hall and the Bill Elliott Museum in the late '80s.

They had one of the superspeedway Thunderbirds on the floor and a few other cars. One thing that I had noticed on the superspeedway car was that everything was smoothed out, even the windows were flush with the bodywork. Sure, it looked like a Thunderbird... The race shop was impressive, then Bill left town.

Thought it was cool that with everything that Bill, Budweiser, and Junior Johnson could do, they would loose the championship to the only owner-driver to win it in the last 58 years.


That’s what happens when you blow an engine in 2 of the last 3 races of the year. No time to recover from the points loss. They handed the championship to Kulwicki on a silver platter.


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