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NFL starts new season sitting for National Anthem. Update Pg 91 (And it continues with 2018 Pre-Season games)
October 01, 2017, 03:51 PM
senza nomeNFL starts new season sitting for National Anthem. Update Pg 91 (And it continues with 2018 Pre-Season games)
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Originally posted by Elk Hunter:
Yeah, how about establishing rules that require that every professional sports team must be comprised of ethnic groups in proportion to the national census. I.e. black males about 6%, etc etc. Really !
They're probably over their quota for felons though.
October 01, 2017, 04:08 PM
kimber1911quote:
Originally posted by gw3971:
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attered kneeling and fist raising. lot of ceremonial kneeling before the anthem
They need to be asked why they are kneeling
They wouldn't be able to answer with anything but the BLM talking points. Most are participating because someone else on their team is doing it. This is just a stupid exercise in group think.
Black Lifes Matter list of Demands1. End The War On Black People
We demand an end to the war against Black people. Since this country’s inception there have been named and unnamed wars on our communities. We demand an end to the criminalization, incarceration, and killing of our people. This includes:
2. Reparations
We demand reparations for past and continuing harms. The government, responsible corporations and other institutions that have profited off of the harm they have inflicted on Black people — from colonialism to slavery through food and housing redlining, mass incarceration, and surveillance — must repair the harm done. This includes:
3. Invest-Divest
We demand investments in the education, health and safety of Black people, instead of investments in the criminalizing, caging, and harming of Black people. We want investments in Black communities, determined by Black communities, and divestment from exploitative forces including prisons, fossil fuels, police, surveillance and exploitative corporations. This includes:
4. Economic Justice
We demand economic justice for all and a reconstruction of the economy to ensure Black communities have collective ownership, not merely access. This includes:
5. Community Control
We demand a world where those most impacted in our communities control the laws, institutions, and policies that are meant to serve us – from our schools to our local budgets, economies, police departments, and our land – while recognizing that the rights and histories of our Indigenous family must also be respected. This includes:
6. Political Power
We demand independent Black political power and Black self-determination in all areas of society. We envision a remaking of the current U.S. political system in order to create a real democracy where Black people and all marginalized people can effectively exercise full political power. This includes:
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Within each of the six headings they go into multiple specific demands.
Free education for all black people, redistribution of wealth, right to fire Police officers, movement of funds from the military to communities, etc. etc.
This is what the NFL kneeling, linking arms, and holding hands is in support of.
“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
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sdythe owners can start sweating again.
half of the 49ers kneeled.
A total of 30 San Francisco players kneeled .
The 49ers added in a statement: "For more than a year, members of our team have protested the oppression and social injustices still present in our society. While some may not have taken a knee or raised a fist, we have all shared the desire to influence positive change.
Today, our team chose to publicly display our unity in a new way and, in turn, urge others do the same." Protesting during the playing of "The Star-Spangled Banner" began last season when Colin Kaepernick, then a 49ers quarterback, took a knee, saying it was to protest social injustice.
October 01, 2017, 05:30 PM
stickman428Damage control. Eff em, im done with the NFL.
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October 01, 2017, 05:46 PM
sdyquite a statement by the Colts.
"critical conversations about real equality, the injustices against black and brown people, police brutality, ..."
Tonight the Colts play Seattle. Seattle is one of the teams that are most likely to protest. This could be quite a shit storm now for the NFL.
For all their calls of "unity" there are teams where everyone stood for the anthem and one team where 30 players kneeled for the anthem. The NFL could get blown apart internally and externally.
October 01, 2017, 06:06 PM
Sigmanicquote:
Originally posted by kimber1911:
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Originally posted by gw3971:
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attered kneeling and fist raising. lot of ceremonial kneeling before the anthem
They need to be asked why they are kneeling
They wouldn't be able to answer with anything but the BLM talking points. Most are participating because someone else on their team is doing it. This is just a stupid exercise in group think.
Black Lifes Matter list of Demands1. End The War On Black People
We demand an end to the war against Black people. Since this country’s inception there have been named and unnamed wars on our communities. We demand an end to the criminalization, incarceration, and killing of our people. This includes:
2. Reparations
We demand reparations for past and continuing harms. The government, responsible corporations and other institutions that have profited off of the harm they have inflicted on Black people — from colonialism to slavery through food and housing redlining, mass incarceration, and surveillance — must repair the harm done. This includes:
3. Invest-Divest
We demand investments in the education, health and safety of Black people, instead of investments in the criminalizing, caging, and harming of Black people. We want investments in Black communities, determined by Black communities, and divestment from exploitative forces including prisons, fossil fuels, police, surveillance and exploitative corporations. This includes:
4. Economic Justice
We demand economic justice for all and a reconstruction of the economy to ensure Black communities have collective ownership, not merely access. This includes:
5. Community Control
We demand a world where those most impacted in our communities control the laws, institutions, and policies that are meant to serve us – from our schools to our local budgets, economies, police departments, and our land – while recognizing that the rights and histories of our Indigenous family must also be respected. This includes:
6. Political Power
We demand independent Black political power and Black self-determination in all areas of society. We envision a remaking of the current U.S. political system in order to create a real democracy where Black people and all marginalized people can effectively exercise full political power. This includes:
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Within each of the six headings they go into multiple specific demands.
Free education for all black people, redistribution of wealth, right to fire Police officers, movement of funds from the military to communities, etc. etc.
This is what the NFL kneeling, linking arms, and holding hands is in support of.
For this particular list, they need to visit the person in charge of such matters. They need to go to Helen Waite.
October 01, 2017, 06:25 PM
Rightwirequote:
Originally posted by kimber1911:
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Originally posted by gw3971:
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attered kneeling and fist raising. lot of ceremonial kneeling before the anthem
They need to be asked why they are kneeling
They wouldn't be able to answer with anything but the BLM talking points. Most are participating because someone else on their team is doing it. This is just a stupid exercise in group think.
Black Lifes Matter list of Demands1. End The War On Black People
We demand an end to the war against Black people. Since this country’s inception there have been named and unnamed wars on our communities. We demand an end to the criminalization, incarceration, and killing of our people. This includes:
2. Reparations
We demand reparations for past and continuing harms. The government, responsible corporations and other institutions that have profited off of the harm they have inflicted on Black people — from colonialism to slavery through food and housing redlining, mass incarceration, and surveillance — must repair the harm done. This includes:
3. Invest-Divest
We demand investments in the education, health and safety of Black people, instead of investments in the criminalizing, caging, and harming of Black people. We want investments in Black communities, determined by Black communities, and divestment from exploitative forces including prisons, fossil fuels, police, surveillance and exploitative corporations. This includes:
4. Economic Justice
We demand economic justice for all and a reconstruction of the economy to ensure Black communities have collective ownership, not merely access. This includes:
5. Community Control
We demand a world where those most impacted in our communities control the laws, institutions, and policies that are meant to serve us – from our schools to our local budgets, economies, police departments, and our land – while recognizing that the rights and histories of our Indigenous family must also be respected. This includes:
6. Political Power
We demand independent Black political power and Black self-determination in all areas of society. We envision a remaking of the current U.S. political system in order to create a real democracy where Black people and all marginalized people can effectively exercise full political power. This includes:
---------------------
Within each of the six headings they go into multiple specific demands.
Free education for all black people, redistribution of wealth, right to fire Police officers, movement of funds from the military to communities, etc. etc.
This is what the NFL kneeling, linking arms, and holding hands is in support of.
In essence hand them everything so that in a few years the USA will look like Detroit. Got it... And HELL NO!
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There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. October 01, 2017, 06:37 PM
darthfusterquote:
Originally posted by stickman428:
Damage control. Eff em, im done with the NFL.
Do you see what they are doing? They are trying to assimilate us into their protest. Rather than joining us, they are making us join them. NOPE!!!
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier October 01, 2017, 06:37 PM
rusbroquote:
Originally posted by kimber1911:
Black Lifes Matter list of Demands1. End The War On Black People
We demand an end to the war against Black people. Since this country’s inception there have been named and unnamed wars on our communities. We demand an end to the criminalization, incarceration, and killing of our people. This includes:
2. Reparations
We demand reparations for past and continuing harms. The government, responsible corporations and other institutions that have profited off of the harm they have inflicted on Black people — from colonialism to slavery through food and housing redlining, mass incarceration, and surveillance — must repair the harm done. This includes:
3. Invest-Divest
We demand investments in the education, health and safety of Black people, instead of investments in the criminalizing, caging, and harming of Black people. We want investments in Black communities, determined by Black communities, and divestment from exploitative forces including prisons, fossil fuels, police, surveillance and exploitative corporations. This includes:
4. Economic Justice
We demand economic justice for all and a reconstruction of the economy to ensure Black communities have collective ownership, not merely access. This includes:
5. Community Control
We demand a world where those most impacted in our communities control the laws, institutions, and policies that are meant to serve us – from our schools to our local budgets, economies, police departments, and our land – while recognizing that the rights and histories of our Indigenous family must also be respected. This includes:
6. Political Power
We demand independent Black political power and Black self-determination in all areas of society. We envision a remaking of the current U.S. political system in order to create a real democracy where Black people and all marginalized people can effectively exercise full political power. This includes:
---------------------
Within each of the six headings they go into multiple specific demands.
Free education for all black people, redistribution of wealth, right to fire Police officers, movement of funds from the military to communities, etc. etc.
This is what the NFL kneeling, linking arms, and holding hands is in support of.
Not that I'm defending BLM in any way, but that appears to be from a different organization, "Movement for Black Lives."
October 01, 2017, 06:48 PM
braillediverquote:
Originally posted by kimber1911:
Black Lifes Matter list of Demands........
Zimbabwe coming to a town near you.........
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October 01, 2017, 07:05 PM
ChuckFinleyEssentially every American has a platform in today's world to say whatever they please. It's called social media. It can be accessed for free even at public libraries all across the country. To claim some don't have a voice is disingenuous. To admit that what some have to say is wrong-headed, incorrect and/or out of step with the rest of America would make short work of their "protest".
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October 01, 2017, 07:15 PM
Scoutmasterquote:
Originally posted by Rightwire:.....
1. End The War On Black People . . . .2. Reparations . . . .3. Invest-Divest . . . .4. Economic Justice . . . .5. Community Control . . . 6. Political Power . . . .
In essence hand them everything so that in a few years the USA will look like Detroit. . . .
A full page of demands correctly and succinctly boiled down into one simple sentence.
To paraphrase the Bard, The fault, dear BLM, lies in yourselves and not in your surroundings that your lives are dysfunctional.
Curious. Had there been no Black slavery in the US, if all such were still living in Africa, how would their lives be today in comparison. How would the US be in comparison.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 October 01, 2017, 07:28 PM
RHINOWSOquote:
Originally posted by stickman428:
Damage control. Eff em, im done with the NFL.
Fuck them today.
Fuck them tomorrow.
Fuck them FOREVER.
October 01, 2017, 07:39 PM
smschulzThe Colts are trying to play both sides > you can't.
And they are not fooling anybody.
The first team that condemns it for what it is as disrespect for the flag and America plain and simple > will win some hearts back.
Doubletalk and taking each side is not going to cut it.
October 01, 2017, 08:02 PM
olfuzzyI think there's too many cooks in the kitchen.
The coaches, owners and NFL are all trying to figure out how to make this go away and nothing is working.
Maybe I have a tendency to over simplify things but it seems the NFL could come out with a statement/rule stating that every player on every team will remain in the locker room until after the National Anthem to remove the distraction from football. This would also remove the coaches and owners from the equation and take the stage away from these spoiled brats.
BTW, it still won't get me back, but maybe some of the die hard fans will return to the fold.
October 01, 2017, 08:02 PM
Il CattivoNot to be a priss, but how many times do we really need to repost a list of BLM demands?
October 01, 2017, 08:30 PM
Sigmanicquote:
Curious. Had there been no Black slavery in the US, if all such were still living in Africa, how would their lives be today in comparison. How would the US be in comparison.
Better. Not to be crass, but it's just how I've been feeling lately. Multiculturalism has been wearing thin on me.
October 01, 2017, 08:39 PM
AckksI literally just turned my TV on and saw a Seahawks player make a tackle and raise his fist in the air. TV is off.
October 01, 2017, 08:52 PM
12131Don't mess with Texas:
Texas Teens Thrown Off High School Football Team After Kneeling for AnthemTwo Texas teens were thrown off their high school football team after they knelt in protest for the national anthem.
Their coach, military veteran Ronnie Ray Mitchem, warned the boys of the consequences when they told him their plan to protest.
"There is a proper time to do something in a proper way," Mitchem told ABC's KTRK.
"I want this put on here," Mitchem told the interviewer. "I have nothing against those young men. I love them."
In the aftermath, Cedric Ingram-Lewis and Larry McCullough from Victory & Praise Christian Academy in Crosby, Texas said they were happy about the publicity their protest got.
Mitchem has stopped watching NFL games due to the players' protests of the national anthem, meant to raise awareness for what they see as systemic racism in America.
"As a veteran I have a strong view of what I feel is disrespectful."
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October 01, 2017, 08:53 PM
Scoutmasterquote:
Originally posted by Sigmanic:
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Curious. Had there been no Black slavery in the US, if all such were still living in Africa, how would their lives be today in comparison. How would the US be in comparison.
Better. Not to be crass, but it's just how I've been feeling lately. Multiculturalism has been wearing thin on me.
I support the concept of multiculturalism, adopt the best of all cultures. But it seems in practice in the past few years it has been to surrender what built America and adopt the elements that have poisoned other cultures.
Sidenote: Seems the SF 49ers did their kneel thing again today. Also seems they are 0-4 for the season. Last home game for the 49ers I understand the walk-in tickets cost half of what the parking cost, even then they couldn't sell them.
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 