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September 27, 2017, 04:52 PM
nhtagmember
NFL starts new season sitting for National Anthem. Update Pg 91 (And it continues with 2018 Pre-Season games)
I think its hugely important to note that the Lingerie Football League has come out and said they will ALL stand for the anthem.

We need to support them



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September 27, 2017, 04:57 PM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by esdunbar:
I have suddenly become completely disgusted with professional sports. The NBA jumping into this only makes it worse for me.

Could have predicted that would happen.

quote:
Originally posted by esdunbar:
We have season tickets to the Detroit Tigers and our VP of Marketing and Sales has already been told he will not be allowed to renew the tickets if one single Tiger takes a knee next year.

I expect that to happen, as well.

Probably won't happen in the NHL. Probably.



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September 27, 2017, 04:59 PM
erj_pilot
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I pray to God it won't happen, but I don't see this bleeding over into the NHL. The thugery level in the NHL is waaaaaaaaaaay below that of the NBA or NFL. In fact, you almost NEVER hear of any impropriety of NHL players. Not to say it never happens......



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September 27, 2017, 05:28 PM
sdy
This is a good one

http://www.breitbart.com/sport...linking-arms-anthem/

Aaron Rodgers (QB, Green Bay):

“This is about equality. This is about unity and love and growing together as a society and starting a conversation around something that may be a little bit uncomfortable for people."

“But we’ve got to come together and talk about these things and grow as a community, as a connected group of individuals in our society, and we’re going to continue to show love and unity, and this week we’re going to ask the fans to join in as well and come together and show people that we can be connected and we can grow together.”

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wow. sounds really nice doesn't it?


Aaron Rodgers hasn't talked to his parents or brothers in several years. Big family blow up over a romance he was having.

So Aaron doesn't talk to his own family, but he can lecture us about "starting a conversation around something that may be a little bit uncomfortable for people"
September 27, 2017, 05:38 PM
rusbro
This whole "starting a conversation" thing is of course complete bullshit, because anyone with balls enough to actually have an honest conversation about policing and "the community" will be labeled a racist and dismissed.
September 27, 2017, 05:41 PM
lastmanstanding
quote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I pray to God it won't happen, but I don't see this bleeding over into the NHL. The thugery level in the NHL is waaaaaaaaaaay below that of the NBA or NFL. In fact, you almost NEVER hear of any impropriety of NHL players. Not to say it never happens......

I'm guessing the league has already communicated to their players on this. The NHL does not have the luxury of the enormous fan base the NFL does. The NFL can take this hit and will survive.
The NHL can't afford to lose ANY fans and survive. If anything if they do it right they stand to peel off some of those NFL fans.


"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton
September 27, 2017, 05:42 PM
chellim1
quote:
Originally posted by rusbro:
This whole "starting a conversation" thing is of course complete bullshit, because anyone with balls enough to actually have an honest conversation about policing and "the community" will be labeled a racist and dismissed.

Exactly.
The last thing they want is an honest conversation about race or crime.
By "starting a conversation" they mean "shut up and go-along to get-along".
It's PC for SHUT UP!



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September 27, 2017, 05:44 PM
chellim1
quote:
The NHL can't afford to lose ANY fans and survive. If anything if they do it right they stand to peel off some of those NFL fans.

The Blues have certainly gained fans in St. Louis after the Rams left town.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
September 27, 2017, 06:01 PM
prairieviper
After doing a Google search, I found several places that list major NFL sponsors and their position regarding the "kneeling" controversy. All I can say is I found the Sponsors positions to be pretty pathetic. I have already written to some. If enough unhappy folks contact these sponsors it might have some impact.


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September 27, 2017, 06:02 PM
redstone
When I was a kid there was flag burning (the 70's) and using the flag to make a demonstration has a long history. I also remember Monzano monzano toutingt the American and Mexican flag when the USA was wining the medal. Asshole.
I also remember the Dixie Chicks. it wasnt that they were not for the war, it's what they said, and where they said it and then a whole lot of bad decisions after that.
Rogers, and anyone else can claim "conversation needs to happen" that is fine.I dont watch anymore.
NFL not enforcing there own code is hypocrisy.
NFL players can do whatever they want. IF they want to do this crap then fine.
Bob costas wants to keep ranting during his halftime monologue. that is fine. I dont watch anymore.
But you know what, choosing the anthem, was a wrong move. It is mean spirited. but you knew that, so I dont watch anymore.

So I do not have to watch, buy, or participate in any way. And i will not be made to feel the racist because you chose to shit yourself over the BLM last year, and then you thought I gave a damn because your a football player. No I dont.
I quit watching the NBA when it became less about folks like David Robinson and more about shit holes like Rodman (he did play a hella defense, but damn thats a lot of bagage).
Maybe the MLB starts up in October, kneeling. then that too will no longer be watched.
You want to be a fool and do your antifa, BLM bullshit. fine It is America (for now) afterall. But I do not have to watch. I do not think you will miss me. And that is ok.



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September 27, 2017, 06:27 PM
lastmanstanding
Well just when I thought the NHL couldn't possibly be this stupid there apparently are players considering kneeling or some other form of protest. Only fools rush in....

Link


"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton
September 27, 2017, 06:30 PM
BamaJeepster
If you come to the Smokies don't waste your time looking for NFL gear at the Great Smoky Mountains Mall!


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- John Adams
September 27, 2017, 06:41 PM
2BobTanner
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
quote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I pray to God it won't happen, but I don't see this bleeding over into the NHL. The thugery level in the NHL is waaaaaaaaaaay below that of the NBA or NFL. In fact, you almost NEVER hear of any impropriety of NHL players. Not to say it never happens......

I'm guessing the league has already communicated to their players on this. The NHL does not have the luxury of the enormous fan base the NFL does. The NFL can take this hit and will survive.
The NHL can't afford to lose ANY fans and survive. If anything if they do it right they stand to peel off some of those NFL fans.


Considering that only 5% of the NHL is black, as compared to 70% of the NFL and 74% of the NBA, the numbers for "racial solidarity" just aren't there.


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September 27, 2017, 07:15 PM
justjoe
quote:
By "starting a conversation" they mean "shut up and go-along to get-along".
It's PC for SHUT UP!


^^^Exactly. Their "conversations" all begin: Repeat after me....


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September 27, 2017, 07:21 PM
GWbiker
quote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I pray to God it won't happen, but I don't see this bleeding over into the NHL. The thugery level in the NHL is waaaaaaaaaaay below that of the NBA or NFL. In fact, you almost NEVER hear of any impropriety of NHL players. Not to say it never happens......


Well we had the "Broad Street Bullies" (Philadelphia Flyers) in the '80's and only thugery they did was beat up on the opposing team.


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"Some people are alive today because it's against the law to kill them".
September 27, 2017, 07:26 PM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
Well just when I thought the NHL couldn't possibly be this stupid there apparently are players considering kneeling or some other form of protest. Only fools rush in....

Link

*sigh* Guess I was wrong... <smhs>

Good thing (for me) I no longer watch NHL hockey.



"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
September 27, 2017, 07:46 PM
2000Z-71
Thanks to his asshattery, I've not got to have a conversation with our club's ownership and our archery team. We've got the AZ State Outdoor Championship next month. As with all archery tournaments, the national anthem is played at the beginning of the tournament.

I'm not expecting any kneeling or protesting from our club, but I've got to be proactive about it just in case there is. Not only on what our club's policy and reaction will be but also how to deal with other club's and individuals who may not share the same views.

So thank you NFL for causing me to have a conversation with my team, parents and club ownership on what it means to be respectful of our flag.




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September 27, 2017, 07:52 PM
Sigmund
quote:
Originally posted by sdy:
West Virginia AG:

#NFL players should be down on both knees thanking god they live in country allowing them to make millions while showing such disrespect.

"Senator Manchin has sided with his liberal friends countless times over West Virginia’s conservative values...Now, his silence in the face of deep disrespect to our national symbol is further proof that he will not stand with West Virginia. As a senator, Sen. Manchin owes it to the people of West Virginia to tell them where he stands. Does he stand with his liberal whining activist buddies, or does he stand with our veterans and thousands of patriotic West Virginians?”

3 days later:

Manchin:

"This is something that the owners have to address...[they have to] step in here and say, 'I'm not going to tolerate it'... I think everyone should stand and show reflect for the flag that represents the greatest nation on earth."



In an amazing coincidence, Sen Manchin is up for reelection a year from now.
September 27, 2017, 07:56 PM
BamaJeepster
quote:
Originally posted by Sigmund:
In an amazing coincidence, Sen Manchin is up for reelection a year from now.


He'll go into full McCain mode from now to the election. He'll run to the right of Atilla the Hun and as soon as he gets elected he will return to Schumer's back pocket.



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- John Adams
September 27, 2017, 08:35 PM
kimber1911
I think this is more personal to many of those kneeling than BLM and Michael Brown.
They say it is about Police oppression of the blackman.

With the statistics on arrests for NFL players, I am certain that many of these thugs feel that they specifically have been oppressed by the police.



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