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NFL starts new season sitting for National Anthem. Update Pg 91 (And it continues with 2018 Pre-Season games)
September 25, 2017, 01:54 PM
AckksNFL starts new season sitting for National Anthem. Update Pg 91 (And it continues with 2018 Pre-Season games)
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The National Football League and its 32 teams made $1.25 billion from corporate partners last year, according to sponsorship tracker ESP Properties. The list includes some of the advertising world’s biggest spenders. Visa Inc., Ford Motor Co., Nike Inc., Anheuser-Busch InBev, Microsoft Corp., McDonald’s Corp., PepsiCo Inc. and Bridgestone Corp. are among the league’s top-tier partners and almost all have remained silent on what was possibly the most political and polarizing Sunday in recent league history.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news...p-s-call-for-boycottSeptember 25, 2017, 01:56 PM
HRKShit I'll never get a new Truck
Can't get a GM/Chevy - Bailout money for unions
Can't get a Mopar - Fiat owned, paid for by taxpayers bailout
Cant buy Jap, they bombed Pearl Harbor
Now I can't buy a Ford - damn Football aholes
No Korean Pickups yet - so that's out...
September 25, 2017, 02:01 PM
oddball
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September 25, 2017, 02:10 PM
Sigmanicquote:
I didn't watch any football yesterday. Oh well
Yeah, the Broncos are in the tank on this, as well. Sad.
Oh well, fall is my favorite time of year, and I would rather spend my weekend days outside enjoying it - away from a politicized game and network (ESPN). Don't need a fucking lecture. The NFL can rot as far as I'm concerned. This also goes for the Superbowl....which should be played on Saturday anyway.
September 25, 2017, 02:22 PM
Flashlightboyquote:
Originally posted by RAMIUS:
I stopped watching all pro-sports, except hockey.
Are the Flyers even a pro team or more like fantasy camp?
September 25, 2017, 02:26 PM
parabellumCome Superbowl time, are we going to stick to your guns? Or will we have by that time managed to rationalize the childish behavior of these clueless spoiled brats?
No games and no Superbowl and
especially no patronage of their advertisers.
Are we serious about this? If so, no pro football means just that, which means no Superbowl party at your house and you won't attend one if invited elsewhere.
September 25, 2017, 02:31 PM
Flashlightboyquote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Come Superbowl time, are we going to stick to your guns? Or will we have by that time managed to rationalize the childish behavior of these clueless spoiled brats?
No games and no Superbowl and especially no patronage of their advertisers.
Are we serious about this? If so, no pro football means just that, which means no Superbowl party at your house and you won't attend one if invited elsewhere.
Serious as can be. Wrote a nice fuck off email to my Raiders this morning and said that after 4 decades of support, I'm done.
It's not hard to break the umbilical cord if you have solid principles.
September 25, 2017, 02:31 PM
LeemurDead freakin serious.
September 25, 2017, 02:31 PM
marksman41^^^
Yep, that's what "No NFL" means to me. Nothing watched, purchased, or supported in any way.
By SuperBowl time my new "No NFL" habit will be completely ingrained so that doing the right thing will be an unconscious act.
September 25, 2017, 02:33 PM
jhe888quote:
Originally posted by deepocean:
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Originally posted by esdunbar:
I will not support the companies who support the NFL and their children.
very well said
All well and good, but that is a VERY long list. Better get busy figuring out whose products and services you have to flush. Ford, Chevrolet, Pepsi (lots of food products), Nike, VISA, Kia, Geico, McDonalds, Mercedes Benz (damn near every car maker), Verizon, Bridgestone, Microsoft, Anheuser Busch/InBev, . . . there must be dozens or even hundreds of advertisers. I found those in about 30 seconds on Google.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. September 25, 2017, 02:34 PM
sjtillquote:
Cant buy Jap, they bombed Pearl Harbor
How about you just can't buy a Mitsubishi?
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September 25, 2017, 02:37 PM
Rightwirequote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Come Superbowl time, are we going to stick to your guns? Or will we have by that time managed to rationalize the childish behavior of these clueless spoiled brats?
No games and no Superbowl and especially no patronage of their advertisers.
Are we serious about this? If so, no pro football means just that, which means no Superbowl party at your house and you won't attend one if invited elsewhere.
That's why I said earlier it needs to start now. Companies that advertise at and around the Super Bowl need to know well in advance that no one is coming. They'll be a lot less inclined to buy $2M/min spots if they know only 50,000 nation wide will be watching as opposed to 100 million. Deny the NFL that money and they will certainly take notice.
Total Boycott of superbowl tickets so those in the city where it is being hosted need to know too so they can make alternative plans with no one coming. If you've already booked, go and have a good time doing something else.
Total boycott of all super bowl clothing and memorabilia so vendors realize they'll get stuck with it, won't make it and thus less money for the NFL.
Pull that money from the NFL and now you'll see them change how they operate. They're banking on this being a short term pressure release that everyone will forget come playoff time.
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There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. September 25, 2017, 02:37 PM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
All well and good, but that is a VERY long list. Better get busy figuring out whose products and services you have to flush. Ford, Pepsi (lots of food products), Nike, VISA, Microsoft . . . there must be dozens or even hundreds of advertisers.
So, you suggest...what? Not making any effort at all?
"Oh, so many advertisers, so let's make no effort at all. Let's just not even try."
Is that what you're suggesting? Sure seems that way.
September 25, 2017, 02:37 PM
JALLENquote:
Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
.... Wrote a nice fuck off email to my Raiders this morning and said that after 4 decades of support, I'm done.
It won't work. I've been saying that to and about the Raiders for 45 years, long before there was e-mail.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown September 25, 2017, 02:43 PM
Flashlightboyquote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
.... Wrote a nice fuck off email to my Raiders this morning and said that after 4 decades of support, I'm done.
It won't work. I've been saying that to and about the Raiders for 45 years, long before there was e-mail.
You're just still pissed off at the Holy Roller.
September 25, 2017, 02:43 PM
jhe888quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
All well and good, but that is a VERY long list. Better get busy figuring out whose products and services you have to flush. Ford, Pepsi (lots of food products), Nike, VISA, Microsoft . . . there must be dozens or even hundreds of advertisers.
So, you suggest...what? Not making any effort at all?
"Oh, so many advertisers, so let's make no effort at all. Let's just not even try."
Is that what you're suggesting? Sure seems that way.
What I am saying is: how do you pick? I don't think there is anyone with the willpower to jettison every NFL advertiser from their lives. There are too many, in too many segments of the market that are nearly ubiquitous.
I am suggesting that almost everyone will have some buying preference that they just won't be willing to flush to cut off the NFL. "Well, I can't not use my VISA card." "Or, I really want a new F150." So people will pick and choose in arbitrary ways that simply fit their personal choices - cutting off some advertisers and not others. Which makes it fairly hypocritical and not effective.
If any one does the work and goes all in, then my hat is off to them.
But saying, "I won't buy a Chevy because they advertise on football" while buying a new Jeep makes it kind of a joke, doesn't it?
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. September 25, 2017, 02:47 PM
RNshooterESPN talk radio in Vegas was blasting the President for his comments and then opened up the phone lines: 75% either supported the President or said "1st Amendment doesn't apply at the workplace".
They went to break and changed the subject.
Hah!
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September 25, 2017, 02:47 PM
parabellumOh, I get it, jhe. It's all a joke to n you, because you find it laughable that anyone would even make an effort to let advertisers know how they feel. Yeah, I get it- you don't want to hlp and you think anyone who tries to have an effect on this matter by voting with their dollars, is a fool. That's what you're saying
September 25, 2017, 02:57 PM
VeeperRE: Boycotts
It's also possible that the ratings will collapse to a point where it's no longer as profitable to advertise. People are tired of their bullshit and will stop watching. I don't necessarily have to change my cheese product to have a positive influence on this.
My kid wanted to turn the Lions on yesterday. I told him no and offered to play catch outside instead.
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