Seems like everybody has their personal preference, especially depending on the coffee.

If I'm understanding correctly (I'm still new to this), the general recommendation is about 60g of beans for every liter of water.

Sounds like costco coffee can provide flavorful coffee at reasonable costs for this ratio. I need to run to the local to see what they stock and if I need to order what I want online.

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Originally posted by konata88:
If I'm understanding correctly (I'm still new to this), the general recommendation is about 60g of beans for every liter of water.

For drip coffee: Yes.

We too are coffee lovers, but we took a different approach to the rising cost of roasted coffee. We roast our own and surprising inexpensively compared to pre-roasted store bought.

Sumatra is our coffee choice, it's a strong but flavorful coffee, we purchase green beans from one of two suppliers, Sweet Maria's or Burman Coffee
we pay $7a pound, more or less, and roast it at home. The roaster is Behmor 2000AB which is less than $500 however you can easily find them on Ebay or Facebook market place at a significant savings.

The Behmor is mostly push button roasting, select the weight to roast, pick the roasting level (A,B,C,D) and the level of heat. A few small test batches and you are good to go. Ours takes about 23.5 minutes to roast 12 oz, add a few minutes of cooling time (automatic) and you have roasted coffee.

It's an easy process, but smokey near the end of the roasting cycle. Most users will roast with a fan running or, like us, in the garage. We purchase 10# at a time, just to give us margin so we don't run out. We cool the hot beans on a cookie sheet and store them in an airtight container to develop the flavor profile we like.

For us we measure 2.3 oz of beans in the grinder, fill an old fashion percolator with water for 12 cups and we are good to go. A pound will last us about 7 days! The cost of a lightly used roaster is quickly payed back with the savings !

PM with questions.

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Originally posted by sig229-SAS:
We too are coffee lovers, but we took a different approach to the rising cost of roasted coffee. We roast our own and surprising inexpensively compared to pre-roasted store bought.

Yes, roasting your own can save you quite a chunk of change--once you break even with the cost of the roaster.

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Originally posted by sig229-SAS:
The roaster is Behmor 2000AB ...

The Behmor is mostly push button roasting, select the weight to roast, pick the roasting level (A,B,C,D) and the level of heat. A few small test batches and you are good to go. Ours takes about 23.5 minutes to roast 12 oz, add a few minutes of cooling time (automatic) and you have roasted coffee.

Bookmarked. Thanks for the pointer.

I've been considering roasting my own for quite some time, but, have been unable to find an economical roaster I like.

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Originally posted by sig229-SAS:
It's an easy process, but smokey near the end of the roasting cycle.

Quite smokey. And there's the chaff.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by konata88:
If I'm understanding correctly (I'm still new to this), the general recommendation is about 60g of beans for every liter of water.

For drip coffee: Yes.

Pretty on target.
It's what I use (17%)


https://bigcupofcoffee.com/cof...r-ratio-drip-coffee/

During the decade long 'Great Depression' that followed the crash of the exuberant stock market of 1929 the same issue arose in the midst of great poverty. As a child I heard from my parents and their families who had all lived through it that one solution which was not uncommon was to save and dry the used grounds and then reuse them. I suppose they could have also increased the grams of such grounds to water ratio. This was in Tampa, Fla., where the dominant and prevalent coffee culture was almost entirely Cuban, and it was drunk BLACK. The word espresso didn't find its way into my vocabulary until many decades later.

The standing joke therebout of that era was that if your cup of coffee wouldn't firmly hold a metal teaspoon vertically upright in the cup then it wasn't sufficiently strong enough to drink. Coffee was a very serious matter there. Tampa was, of course, the U.S. domestic home to many if not all the major brands of cigar manufacturers' plants and were largely, if not exclusively, staffed by Cuban immigrants. The Ybor City neighborhood was the center of that culture which is probably far exceeded in numbers by Miami these days.

Okay, this is going to be embarrassing. I finished my bag of $64/lb coffee that I bought on sale for $32/lb. Again, it's not something I would buy again but it was on sale (would never buy at normal price) and thought an expensive coffee might be a good initiation for the new machine (in retrospect, not a good idea).

I'm going to buy a bag from costco next but they have too many choices and having a hard time deciding which one to buy (since whatever I buy is likely going to last 2-3 months).

Anyway, I had an unopened, sealed plastic container of pre-ground Folgers in the pantry. 2 years old it seems. It actually makes a pretty good cup through the moccamaster.

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Originally posted by konata88:
Anyway, I had an unopened, sealed plastic container of pre-ground Folgers in the pantry. 2 years old it seems. It actually makes a pretty good cup

I...

Uh...

You know what, as long as you enjoy it.

Not a coffee drinker....

but....

just use the grounds twice. It works for toilet paper so I don't see why it wouldn't work for coffee

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
You know what, as long as you enjoy it.

I know, I know. Silver lining here is that no matter what I finally decide to buy from costco, I can't be any worse than this. IOW, if I can drink this, I'm gonna like whatever I buy.

Well, I have beans that are over two years old that I have almost used up and they are still palatable, so who am I to judge?

Waiting for this to be delivered today, great reviews and only $5.34 for 12oz bag ($7.20/lb) or .24 per 8 oz cup

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071JY8RFD

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Originally posted by konata88:
... at the current rate, a 10oz bag ($20!) ...

... the cost per cup is much higher than expected (let's say $2/cup ...

I thought that sounded expensive, and I was right.

I just got back from my local roaster. I paid $12.59/pound for freshly-roasted, whole-bean, espresso roast. That'd be $7.87/10 oz. Comes out to about 50¢/cup.

I pull double shots a bit longer than an espresso, but, not as long as a lungo, and add about the same amount of hot water. The result is about 6 oz.

Costco has a new Kirkland French roast whole bean. 1/2 price of Starbucks French Roast, $11/2.5 pounds. My wife like strong coffee - I have to see if new Kirkland meets her expectations. This is a dark roast per Kirkland. Working on Starbucks French Roast bag this month.

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There is no way. Really.

There was a waitress in a restaurant in Murdo, SD in the Mid 1980s That would argue that. She perfected a cup of coffee that she had no problem serving. I swore it must have been the third pot on the same grinds. I told her in my complaint that I could piss darker than what she just served. She responded with “Do I need to call an ambulance for your pissing issue?”

I ate my breakfast while searching for a hair in my eggs and left her a nice tip. A quarter dropped in the cup of what ever they were pushing as coffee. I am confident she had no problem finding it.

Finally used up all of my “old” coffee (2 years+) and am really enjoying my Moccamaster.

I switched to a gold mesh filter and think it results in better tasting coffee. With the same coffee, there was a noticeable taste difference between the brown Melita paper filters I had, the white “oxygen bleached” sample filters that came with the Moccamaster, and the gold mesh.

Three different filters, same coffee, three different tastes. My understanding is the paper filters don’t let all the oils through and at the same time can impart unwanted flavor into the coffee. The gold mesh lets the oils through but adds nothing. To me, the gold mesh is definitely the best tasting of the three.

Yesterday was the end of my old coffee and this morning I just ground a fresh bag of beans. My preference is for stronger coffee, but sometimes the dark roast comes across as burnt to me. Never been a fan of Starbucks. When I was doing pods, I liked the Costco/Kirkland branded “Bold” ones, but needed to use 2-3 of them for a large commuter mug cup.

Amazon has pretty reasonable priced ($7.52/lb) house branded “AmazonFresh” coffee. I bought their light roast a couple weeks ago, but haven’t opened it yet as I’ve been going through my old stuff. As I was reaching the end of the old I also ordered their dark roast “bold”.

This morning I opened the bold version, ground it up and fired up the Moccamaster. Again, I am no coffee snob or connoisseur, but this is fantastic coffee compared to what I have been drinking! Nice bold flavor, but smooth. Not burnt or bitter at all. Brewed it at 45g coffee for 24 oz water.

Can’t say if the coffee is that much better or if being that much fresher makes more difference than I expected. I do know that my pods were never as old as my beans, but the pods never tasted as good. Either way, as of this morning I am even happier getting off the pods and using the Moccamaster daily.

For those interested, here are the links to the Amazon coffee and gold mesh filter basket ($12 for two):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072K58BTR

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074KJ955H

Less expensive coffee roaster is the Fresh Roast 800. A more hands on roaster than the Behmor, but will make the same quantity in the same amount of time.
Buy coffee in bulk and vacuum pack, will last for a long time. Genuine Origin is my go to place to buy green beans. Yes it is 65 pounds at a time, but, do the math on how much you use a week. Yes, it will last until all used up if taken care of properly. Plus, everyone will love coffee for birthday gifts and for Christmas.
I just got a box of Sumatra coffee, a bit under $5/pound which is higher than I normally pay. Roasters sell the same coffee roasted for $14 for 12 ounces.
Until you start roasting, what you think is good coffee is not.