I need to replace my 30 year old pressure treated deck boards.about 2500 LF. Over $3000 just for the deck boards. My understanding is PT lumber won’t last like the older ones did due to the environmentally friendly chemicals used now.
Anyone have any experience using Angelique wood? A local lumberyard has some, and praise it up pretty well. Should last 25-50 years without treating, slowly turns gray. Cost about $7000.

Just wondering if there are any negatives or positives I should know about. Trex is off the table I believe.

Thanks,

Terry

I don't have any experience in using this wood, but looking at the Janka Hardness scale, it's a little harder than Teak; If this is the case, occasional cleaning and maybe pressure washing every 3-4 years to remove the grayed wood should be all that is necessary.

Hardness has very little to do with rot resistance/weather resistance.

To begin with, teak is fairly soft.

Plenty of harder woods, like red oak and maple, will rot pretty much if you look at them funny, and plenty of much softer woods are nearly as rot resistant as teak, like red cedar and bald cypress.

Sorry, I don’t know anything about angelique.

If you’re open to other options, you might look into ipe. It’s fairly widely available, not insanely expensive, and has a reputation for lasting basically forever. Besides being highly weather resistant, it is extremely heavy, hard, and tough.

I have some friends who put in an ipe deck on the Oregon coast (in a town that gets 140” of rain a year) maybe 5 or 6 years ago. They did the research and picked what they thought would be best, basically regardless of cost. That’s not that long ago, but it still looks great. It has gone gray but otherwise still looks brand new.

Ipe is "poor man's teak." It is also not for poor men, either, though. It looks great and is very hard. It will eat drill bits and saw blades if you build with it.

I would say PT pine if maintained will be just fine. I would also ask how long you plan to be in the house and if you've looked at composite materials like Trex, et al.

Just FYI, no city in the US gets 140" of rain in a year. The wettest places in the conus (gulf of mexico towns like mobile, pensacola, new orleans) get 65-70" a year.

Perhaps 140 rain days a year in Oregon.

My boss’s dock on Destin harbor is Ipe. Tough stuff. Also doesn’t add flotation pressure in high water events.

The entire Boardwalk area around the lagoon at the Boardwalk, Yacht Club is ipe.

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Originally posted by BOATTRASH1:
My boss’s dock on Destin harbor is Ipe. Tough stuff. Also doesn’t add flotation pressure in high water events.

The entire Boardwalk area around the lagoon at the Boardwalk, Yacht Club is ipe.

This thread is timely for me, I'm started to rebuild some bulkhead dock and an elevated deck area.

Thanks for this info. Its close enough to my situation

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Originally posted by YellowJacket:
Just FYI, no city in the US gets 140" of rain in a year. The wettest places in the conus (gulf of mexico towns like mobile, pensacola, new orleans) get 65-70" a year.

Perhaps 140 rain days a year in Oregon.

Maybe that's true for cities over a certain size or something, but the coastal Pacific Northwest gets a LOT more rain than the Gulf Coast. It pretty much starts raining in late September/early October and doesn't stop until April.

The friends I mentioned live in a small town in one of the pinky-purple areas on the map below (130-160" per year).

We built a 1,600sf deck out of 5/4 ipe 6 years ago, and it still looks like new. Incredibly hard and dense- you'll need a carbide tipped saw blade.

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Originally posted by YellowJacket:
Just FYI, no city in the US gets 140" of rain in a year. The wettest places in the conus (gulf of mexico towns like mobile, pensacola, new orleans) get 65-70" a year.

Perhaps 140 rain days a year in Oregon.

Maybe that's true for cities over a certain size or something, but the coastal Pacific Northwest gets a LOT more rain than the Gulf Coast. It pretty much starts raining in late September/early October and doesn't stop until April.

The friends I mentioned live in a small town in one of the pinky-purple areas on the map below (130-160" per year).

My apologies. I didn't realize there were spots like that. You're right it must be a population size thing because searches on the subject don't mention much about those extreme areas.

I replaced my old Trek deck with

https://www.novausawood.com/batu-decking.

They had it in the local lumber yard.

IPE is Brazilian Walnut, I went with the Indonesia Mahogany, Red Batu, it has a 25-year warranty but I am too old to ever use it.

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Originally posted by YellowJacket:

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Originally posted by maladat:

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Originally posted by YellowJacket:
Just FYI, no city in the US gets 140" of rain in a year. The wettest places in the conus (gulf of mexico towns like mobile, pensacola, new orleans) get 65-70" a year.

Perhaps 140 rain days a year in Oregon.

Maybe that's true for cities over a certain size or something, but the coastal Pacific Northwest gets a LOT more rain than the Gulf Coast. It pretty much starts raining in late September/early October and doesn't stop until April.

The friends I mentioned live in a small town in one of the pinky-purple areas on the map below (130-160" per year).

My apologies. I didn't realize there were spots like that. You're right it must be a population size thing because searches on the subject don't mention much about those extreme areas.

No worries! The amount of rain there is pretty unbelievable.

Thanks all for the comments. I was hoping someone had personal experience with Angelique wood. I will research that and Ipe and see how they compare.

We laid down a trex deck in 2006 that is still going strong with softness (think dog claws) being the only real downside. From what I’ve experienced it will easily outlast the underlying PT structural support.

I priced out the Ipe to start replacing the deck boards on an existing deck.... came to almost $5k for 275ft/2

I can replace a lot of pine boards for that. Significantly more than expected

old school taggage for options,

I have a small deck (14x14 ish) that was installed when we moved in in 2002 still has the original boards, and they are in fantastic shape, (salt treated)

I built another just below it in 2004, and have replaced most of the boards, some 2x's or 3x's due to the change in whatever chemicals the use now,


so will be replacing the entire lower deck (12x22 or so) likely this fall, with some type of manufactured lumber,

done with the crappy decking boards

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Originally posted by lyman:
old school taggage for options,

I have a small deck (14x14 ish) that was installed when we moved in in 2002 still has the original boards, and they are in fantastic shape, (salt treated)

I built another just below it in 2004, and have replaced most of the boards, some 2x's or 3x's due to the change in whatever chemicals the use now,


so will be replacing the entire lower deck (12x22 or so) likely this fall, with some type of manufactured lumber,

done with the crappy decking boards

That is what I’m trying to avoid. Original deck was built by me in 1991. Each board came with a 30 year warranty tag. I don’t see those anymore.