As I already have a nice Colt, think I’ll pass on these.




CMP 1911 Information
To all CMP constituents:

The CMP Board of Directors has discussed at length how the sales of 1911s would be handled, if the CMP were to ever receive them from the United States Army.

Some preliminary decisions further clarified:
Decisions concerning the grade and pricing of the 1911s will not be made until inspection has occurred of a substantial quantity which will take an estimated 150 days post receipt.
All laws pertaining to the sale of 1911s by CMP will be strictly obeyed.
Potential purchasers will have to provide to CMP a new set of documents exhibiting: 1) proof of U.S. Citizenship, 2) proof of membership in a CMP affiliated club, 3) proof of participation in a marksmanship activity, 4) a new form 2A with notary, 5) a signed copy of the 01 Federal Firearms License in which the 1911 will be transferred to.
A NICS background check will be performed by CMP on the customer to assure the customer is eligible to purchase prior to shipment to the FFL licensed dealer. The customer must receive a "proceed" from NICS prior to shipment of the pistol to the FFL licensed dealer.
The CMP customer will be required to complete a form 4473 in person at the FFL dealers place of business, successfully passing a NICS check performed by the FFL holder, before the pistol can be transferred. This is a second NICS check performed on the customer.
Qualified CMP customer will only be allowed to purchase one 1911 per calendar year.
No 1911s available in the CMP stores, or on line, only mail order sales.
CMP will set the date in which it will accept orders for the 1911s. The date will be posted to the world.
Orders will only be accepted via mail order delivery.
Orders will only be accepted post marked on the date or after, no early orders.
Once CMP receives 10,000 orders, customer names will be loaded into the Random Number Generator.
The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequence order through a random picking process to CMP.
Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator.
When the customer is contacted a list of 1911 grades and pricing options that are available will be offered for selection of one.
As CMP proceeds down the sequenced list less grade and pricing options will be available. Again, this done completely random.

Note: 1911 type pistols purchased from CMP cannot be transferred to 03 FFL (curio and relic) license. BATF and the United States Army prefer the second background check be performed by a "store front" FFL dealer. Each customer purchasing a 1911 type pistol from CMP will be subjected to two NICS background checks, one performed by CMP and the other performed by the FFL dealer the pistol is being shipped to.


Mark Johnson
Chief Operating Officer
Civilian Marksmanship Program
www.thecmp.org

I got that notice also,to me , no I will not jump thru the hoops and bull crap they put in front of those old things.
I also have nice 1911 that for the most part I bought new

They seem to have out done themselves.

No thanks.

RMD

Same here, got the email yesterday and pretty much felt “meh” about the whole thing. A lot of trouble for who knows what your going to get to choose from. I’ll enjoy my DW valor instead thanks.

Wow!
That sure is a lot of trouble just to buy a worn out 1911.

Not a chance. If they were selling them for $100, maybe, but $1K for a worn out beater? No way, I'll let the 'collectors' have them.

I'm no doubt eligible being Distinguished Pistol. Lots of red tape, but it doesn't surprise me. The real question is how beat up the guns are, and what price compared to a Spfd Range Officer.

In the mid 70s, my first base armory had kept some left over 1911s, despite USAF SP adapting the S&W Model 15 some years before. IIRC, there was a pistol rack of 10. I looked them over once. Two had frame cracks. One had a broken hammer. All were light brown in color and cracked plastic grips were common. I would hope that CMP will choose the best of the lot of remaining guns to sell but the chances of running across a match grade AMU gun seem remote. Too much red tape and too high a price to roll the dice.
Be nice if CMP would post a few photos of a "sampling" of the sale guns online prior to the sale.
But that might kibosh the sale!

Yep, cannot use an FFL 03 ... plus, I read on various forums the pistols will be priced comparatively high.

An ink-signed FFL copy? Even FFLs began accepting faxed, then digital copies years ago.

CMP and the Army is leaving nothing to chance.

Still, they ain't making any more. Once they're gone, they're gone.

I had thought about it until their list of demands came out. No thanks, I will stick with my P220ST.

Well at least I don't have to wrestle a bear.

That's a lot of bullshit for a chance at buying something sight unseen.

Who am I kidding, I'll do it anyway.

That is asinine.

10,000 orders? Of that shit? I fail to see what makes the guns worth the expense or effort.

willing to bet,

2 or maybe 3 grades (similar to rack, field , service on the Garands)

AMU, US&S and any oddball will go to auction and get stupid money

also willing to bet UPS, FedEx, USPS overnight mail will be extremely busy in Anniston on the release date,

wondering if it will be one tractor trailer or 3 of applications??


and other than the 01FFL requirement, basically the same hoops you go thru to get a Rifle from CMP



btw, was told thru a semi reliable source that they already had the first 10K or a large amount at Anniston, and in CMP custody,

apparently that is the number they had for the National Matches in storage, as in you used to be able to borrow a gun to shoot a match, + the small arms firing schools etc etc,

Yea, no one wants to jump through all those extra hoops! Everybody should boycott the CMP 1911s!



<----Secretly is getting his paperwork in order.

2 NICS checks, wonder what Dem got that in the bill?

I originally thought “You now this might be an opportunity to get a cheap beater and make it a project gun.” It really doesn’t sound like it any more.

quote:

Originally posted by Skull Leader:
Yea, no one wants to jump through all those extra hoops! Everybody should boycott the CMP 1911s!



<----Secretly is getting his paperwork in order.

I've always been more interested in shooters than in collectors' items. I have a perfectly good DW and an OK RIA, so I'll pass on this round of hoops. Now if CMP gets hold of some more M1 Carbines at a decent price, I'll be more tempted.

Sending in that documentation is normal CMP procedures. I've done it lots of times. The difference is the 01FFL requirement.
The market on these guns has been pretty hot; I'm sure the CMP will charge what they believe is fair - and it will most likely be below what dealers are getting now.
I'm gonna take a shot and get the best one available to me.
If you want one, now's the time to get it.

It was made clear a year ago that they were going for a rock bottom price. collections will snap them up in short order.

Other than a delivery to a FFL because it's a handgun, there is little different that the requirements for getting a rifle. So there is an additional $20 or so charge added.

Whining about the price? I've seen the same era 1911's on sale at a local shop here for almost twice that price.

It's comical that some are looking at this as a comparison to the new commercial models. It's a piece of history and the numbers are relatively few.

What, no DNA and blood samples needed?


Seems like a lot of work for a basic 1911. I had the opportunity to handle several US GI 1911’s when I was in the Marines and I was never impressed to be blunt.

Most of them sounded like a rattle if you shook them, basic crap sights, just don’t see the interest. I have a Rock Island Armory .45 that is head and shoulders above any 1911 the Marines loaned me.

Rocks are a “piece of history” as well, and I can get them free in my backyard.