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There are arguments that it would ratify the entirety of the runaway spending in the last Biden budget.

On the other side, the President is asking for it to buy another 6 months time to work on a budget.

If you were in Congress, would you vote for a so-called “clean CR [continuing resolution]”?

Question:
If you were in Congress, would you vote for a so-called “clean CR [continuing resolution]”?

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1. Yes.
2. No.

 



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Another six months. Then another six months. Then another six months. And the budget keeps growing. We’re in this mess because the can keeps getting kicked down the road for decades. Making a big show of laying off employees with zero regard and slashing spending in theory again with zero regard but then passing the same fucking budget is a farce. Trump was elected over four months ago. The current congress started two months ago. Budget cuts have been a selling point for decades. Now they need six more months. For what? It’s so every fucking congress critter can find a way to increase funding for their pet projects while screwing their neighbor. There’s one party. It spends our money with zero regard because it isn’t their money and they’ll be out of office when the bill finally comes due.
 
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House To Vote On Stopgap Amid Trump-Massie Feud; Freedom Caucus Comes Around, But Senate Looms

With three days remaining before the next shutdown, the House is expected to pass a stopgap funding package on Tuesday after the House Freedom Caucus agreed to back it - which means Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) may be able to pass the bill, which would fund the government until September - without the help of Democrats.

That said, despite the Freedom caucus' buy-in, Johnson still has several GOP holdouts - with the only one to go public being Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) - who President Donald Trump dragged on social media, calling for him to be primaried, and comparing him to Rep. Liz Cheney.

On Sunday, Massie said on X "I'm not voting for the Continuing Resolution budget (cut-copy-paste omnibus) this week," adding "Why would I vote to continue the waste fraud and abuse DOGE has found?"

https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/.../1898927168224108835



To which Trump replied on Truth Social: "Congressman Thomas Massie, of beautiful Kentucky, is an automatic ‘NO’ vote on just about everything, despite the fact that he has always voted for Continuing Resolutions in the past,” Trump said. “HE SHOULD BE PRIMARIED, and I will lead the charge against him."

To which Massie then replied: "Someone thinks they can control my voting card by threatening my re-election. Guess what? Doesn’t work on me."

Also potentially on the fence Punchbowl reports that Reps. Kat Cammack (R-FL) and Beth Van Duyne (R-TX) both raised concerns over the measure during a GOP whip meeting on Monday.

That said, the House Freedom Caucus endorsed the CR in a statement, saying:

"The House Freedom Caucus supports the FY 2025 Continuing Resolution. Contrary to Congress' longtime abuse of this legislative tool, this CR is a paradigm shift.

This bill will reduce and then freeze spending for the next six months to allow President Trump and his Administration to continue their critical work within the Executive Branch to find and eliminate waste, fraud, and abuse.

It entirely kills the prospect of a budget busting, pork filled omnibus this fiscal year, and it breaks the longstanding practice in the Swamp of handcuffing increases in defense funding with increases to the non-defense bureaucracy.

Furthermore, it contains zero earmarks, makes major rescissions to the Internal Revenue Service and the so-called “Commerce slush fund,” and includes additional funding for immigration enforcement and deportation operations. Perhaps most importantly, it prevents Democrats from derailing the America First agenda with a go-nowhere government shutdown.

With the six months of funding this bill provides, Freedom Caucus Members look forward to working hand-in-hand with DOGE, OMB, and the new cabinet secretaries in eliminating even more waste, fraud, and abuse — and enacting historic spending reforms via reconciliation — all as part of President Trump’s effort to balance the budget."

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...-around-senate-looms

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"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Is there not some risk of a change in holding the majority in 6 months? Not necessarily a huge risk, but some risk?

I'm usually against kicking cans down roads. Especially since holding the majority depends on what happens in some special elections replacing (R) reps called to serve in the Administration.

That all being said, giving this Administration 6 months breathing space, given DOGE and the caliber of the players....maybe I'd be OK with it, if the risk of changing majorities is acceptably low.
 
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Massie needs to stop his childish bullshit and get on board with the plan. Hopefully this is the last straw in getting him bounced out.


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Massie needs to stop his childish bullshit and get on board with the plan. Hopefully this is the last straw in getting him bounced out.


Cool story, bro. Thankfully, most of his constituents support his childish bullshit of not kicking the can down the road any further. President Trump promised to end the status quo, and it’s time for him to make good on that promise. Instead of taking childish shots at someone who actually has the balls to do what Trump promised in his campaign.

I know, I know. This time is different. Roll Eyes You guys are in abusive relationship with your government masters.




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Congress has one primary job: approving the federal budget.

This is Fiscal Year (FY) 2025. It began 01 October 2024.

The US was to have all appropriations voted on and enacted into law by the President before the start of the new FY (in this case, 01 October 2024).

Trump and the Republican leadership in Congress now wants NO new budget for FY2025. That means ZERO spending reductions. That means wasteful programs continue.

Would I vote to allow Congress to not perform their primary job?

NOT ONLY NO, BUT HELL NO!

If the Congress can't produce a federal budget, shut the whole thing down until they do.





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Originally posted by Gustofer:
Massie needs to stop his childish bullshit and get on board with the plan. Hopefully this is the last straw in getting him bounced out.


Cool story, bro. Thankfully, most of his constituents support his childish bullshit of not kicking the can down the road any further. President Trump promised to end the status quo, and it’s time for him to make good on that promise. Instead of taking childish shots at someone who actually has the balls to do what Trump promised in his campaign.

I know, I know. This time is different. Roll Eyes You guys are in abusive relationship with your government masters.

If you really think that someone, anyone, is going to be able to simply go in and slash the federal budget in half right off the bat, well...then you're dumber than he is.

That is NOT how politics works (as much as we all may like it to). Compromise is necessary and Massie does not understand that (nor do you, apparently). But, hey, keep on voting for that idiot and fucking over the rest of the country. At least it's principled, right? Roll Eyes

The guy reminds me of that Post Office idiot who put his hands over his ears at a Congressional Hearing. Utterly childish.


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Poor thing, after the last 20 years, you and other Paul Ryan types still insist that “compromise” is the only way.

The reason we have have weak conservatives in office is because we have way too many weak conservatives. Lord, you must be damn near suicidal at the idea the Mitch is on his way out.

No private business is run this way. How s that do hard for you Paul Ryan types to grasp. Only people that are part of the grift finds this to be “just politics as usual”

Hey we can’t afford it, but we compromised (after we all lied and swore we wouldn’t) so let’s just keep doing the same thing.




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Cool story, bro.

Perhaps you could take a little time away from childishly trying to insult other members here and...oh, I don't know...maybe learn a little bit about civics?


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Cool story, bro.

Perhaps you could take a little time away from childishly trying to insult other members here and...oh, I don't know...maybe learn a little bit about civics?


Childish must be the politico playbook word of the day?

Simple question for you to redirect on and dismiss.

What tangible thing did passing this give conservatives and tax payers? What did the other party give up that is tangible in your “compromise”?




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I know, I know. This time is different.



Given the fact that Trump is in office, I do think it's different this time. He's taking some really big steps to correct long term, but short term, he has to be able to keep making these corrections.




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This gives Trump the time he needs. I hope it passes.



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Because the bill being proposed has zero pork and now new spending (as I understand), and because I trust Trump, and because his admin seems to be making good progress and keeping promises, I’d give it this one pass.
 
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House Passes Full-Year Stopgap As Democrat Crosses Party Lines, Massie Votes 'No'

Update (Mar 11, 2025 - 05:03 PM): The House passed the stopgap resolution on Tuesday to avert a partial government shutdown and fund federal agencies through September.

House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) was able to convince most Republicans to vote for the bill, with the exception of Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), while one Democrat - Jared Golden (D-ME) joined the Republicans in passing the measure which increases security spending by $4.4 billion, contains a $440 million boost for immigration enforcement, and cuts the IRS budget by $20 billion.

The bill passed in a 217 - 213 vote, and will now move to the Senate, where it needs at least 60 votes to pass - meaning around 10 Democrats will need to cross party lines.

Moderate Senate Democrats, including Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, Jacky Rosen of Nevada, and Mark Kelly of Arizona have given no indication on how they'll vote, while Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA) said he would support it.

If a Saturday shutdown does occur, the White House budget office would have the flexibility to decide which federal workers are furloughed (and would receive backpay) and which essential staff must continue in their positions without pay. The military would remain on duty without pay until the shutdown was over.

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...-around-senate-looms



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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MAYBE.

I would have to be shown a real, actionable, plan to establish a real budget, before the 6 months is up.

Admittedly, at 8 months I’m probably voting to set up Madame Guillotine.
 
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So Joe Biden’s budget needs to be passed now because they can’t get 60 votes in the Senate but somehow in six months, with no change in Senate membership, they’ll be able to get 60 votes in the Senate? Riiiiiight.
 
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So Joe Biden’s budget needs to be passed now because they can’t get 60 votes in the Senate but somehow in six months, with no change in Senate membership, they’ll be able to get 60 votes in the Senate? Riiiiiight.

That's pretty much how it always goes... a CR now, increasing funding, with promises that they will cut spending in the future. But they never do. This keeps all of Biden’s spending, which is crazy.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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This gives Trump the time he needs. I hope it passes.


This is how I feel. The guy has been in office for how long?

I'm sick and tired of the Libertarian guys chirping from the sidelines, trying to somehow imply that any of the mess we're in at this moment is POTUS 47's fault. Sure, maybe 45, but what about the 4 years of 46?

Get stuff funded for a few months and then start using Congress to cut everything back. With a chainsaw.




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Trump can't come in with his white hat and clean up Dodge in 60 days.

It takes time to put everything in place and you can't just say No to all funding until you get your dream package and even in an ideal circumstance, you might not get the amount of funding you want.

Having a strategy where every play is a Hail Mary on funding isn't a plan but instead a dream.

Doge is working like it should and the cost cutting is starting to mature. It would be foolish to have to do a CR every 90 days and the president needs time get the finances in order.
 
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